oops, I guess I wasn't suppose mention the elephant standing in the room. The Dodge Demon has a "race" button, the Tesla has an "insane mode" button, and the Thomas has the thumbscrew Duh.
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Best wishes to the USA World team in Slovenia
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Totally legal for what ?
the thumb screw on the back of the gun is for the hammer spring
and almost all guns have a version of one
the thumb screw on the back of the gun is for the hammer spring
and almost all guns have a version of one
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Yes, but you have to use tools to adjust the hammer spring on those other guns. Just sayin'.
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No need for sour grapes man. Maybe you should ask to swap guns with the guy who beat you with the thomas and find out if it's the gun or the shooter.
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Fake news!
You're implying that Thomas shooters cheat by adjusting power above the class limits.
I shoot with these guys at my local range. We all spend a lot of time to find the fpe sweet spot - the most accurate - that is below 12 or 20 fpe. You don't want to mess with it after it is set because you lose accuracy. I shoot HV and my RAW does best around 790 fps, which puts me around 18fpe. Increasing power drops the accuracy.
That along with the fact that Thomas power class change requires different air valve screws.
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How then, can you shoot a rifle in a class that has been tech inspected and then shoot it in the next class and prove that it has not been tampered with? The potential is there and not everyone is honest. Being able to adjust the hammer tension can increase speed which can be quite an advantage in certain conditions. Just callin a duck a duck.
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Is there an external Velocity adjustor on the the Thomas Air that makes it instantaneous on the fly ? (ie: like Air Arms FAC S400/410 ?)
Yes = potential attraction for bending rules..
No = as requires physical dismantling of air gun...then no fuss...same as other air rifle brands & models...
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So what is this so called "advantage" you are talking about...
As Kim mentioned before, benchrest shooters spend hundreds to thousands of hours tuning their rifles, which means finding the exact lot of pellets that shoot the best at an exact velocity. Messing with that velocity up or down will result in reduced accuracy. There is ZERO incentive to change ANYTHING on their rifles.
Not to mention that competitors are watched by shooting officials throughout the competition (messing with gear will immediately draw attention and result in an official standing over your shoulder watching you like a hawk), and winners are required to present their gear for inspection which includes a chrono run to insure they are within the limits of the class.
Just calling BS when I hear BS...
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Jeff Crisler (Ironman)
there are 3 Thomas shooters shooting for USA in the worlds and your comments are hinting they might not be honest ?
why you are so negative on Thomas shooters ?
there are 3 Thomas shooters shooting for USA in the worlds and your comments are hinting they might not be honest ?
why you are so negative on Thomas shooters ?
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My experience is what Percula is saying. It takes a long time to find just the right FPS for your pellet (after finding the best lot of pellets for your barrel) and barrel. I've finally got mine dialed in, and the very last thing I want to do is touch that HS adjuster!!
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Hey guys, 2 LV cards shot today, 100 plus degree heat, my first card was 244-9x, 2nd --249-9x (2nd place score in 2nd relay) i tied 1st place but lost by 2FM. i dont remember Todds scores but he trails me by 3 points. Will shoot final relay tomorrow for LV then start HV.
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Thanks Kim, i just found out my 249-9x was 3rd highest, Italian shooter did alittle better, currently 9th in LV.
I havnt shot LV since regionals, Martin is currently building my LV rifle.
I havnt shot LV since regionals, Martin is currently building my LV rifle.
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I agree with everything you guys said, but if you have a rifle that can shoot in every class you are not following the rules by adjusting the hammer tension every time a different event comes up. The judges put a sticker saying you passed tech inspection and you cannot touch the adjustments on the gun. Period.
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The rules at the Nationals were apparently changed last year because there was no tech inspection at all. Everyone was told to be on the "Honor" system and shoot under the foot pounds for each given class. Only the top 3 places in each class were tech inspected after the event occurred. I am not saying this was because they wanted the Thomas rifles to be competitive but if they had the tech inspection back then, the shooters in Slovenia would have already known that the forend of the rifle was too wide, etc.
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The shooters should have been smart enough to ensure that their equipment met all the rules before traveling half way around the world.
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