BEWARE OF SELLING ONLINE.

[Florida_Man]

I was trying to sell a Kalibrgun, and got a buyer from airgun classified... so I thought. Agreement was I would ship when the check clears. They refereed to the payment coming from their "financial" and I started getting hairs on my neck raised. The buyer wants it shipped to an address in Arizona, but the check is coming from Chicago.
From this address....






Today the check was arriving FEDEX and I get this




I'm done on that classified. Be careful out there. If I decide to sell it in the future, it will only be here.

 

[Jlowe]

That's an old one. They have been trying that one for the last 22 years I have been buying and selling airguns online. You just got to hit the reject button on those people.

 

[JimNM]

You are WAY more nice than I could ever be to scammer scum bags. As long as you don't try to deposit the check, they got nothing on ya. There are those that like to antagonize the "419" crowd. Some really entertaining videos on the Tuba-Youba.

 

[Spartan]

Mail fraud and wire fraud all in one. Both are federal crimes. If they actually sent a check I would report it to the Alphabet org. The only way to try and stop these people is to report the crimes. No report, no prosecution attempts, and then they will continue scamming. These scumbags represent the worst of humanity.

 

[Florida_Man]

You are WAY more nice than I could ever be to scammer scum bags. As long as you don't try to deposit the check, they got nothing on ya. There are those that like to antagonize the "419" crowd. Some really entertaining videos on the Tuba-Youba.

I replied after I sent a picture of the destroyed check

"If you send a USPS money order the rifle is yours"

haha, no reponse.

 

[PaddyMan]

Total scam..I'm retired PD..you were smart to trust your gut.

 

[rcs9250]

Craigslist is the worst for scams. Several times I have had items listed for an item that was several hundred dollars. They ask if I will ship to a foreign country. They offer an additional hundred dollars for good packaging.
I agree but tell them that it’s an extra thousand dollars for foreign packaging.

 

[Trucker3573]

Yeah obviously not on the up and up. However can someone please describe the scam? I guess I don’t understand what they have on you by sending you this “check”. What is the bad outcome for the receiver if they try to deposit it ?

 

[Larcat]

Yeah obviously not on the up and up. However can someone please describe the scam? I guess I don’t understand what they have on you by sending you this “check”. What is the bad outcome for the receiver if they try to deposit it ?

Deposit and wait for clear?

Nothing.

Deposit and "return the over payment" or send the item on? Loss of the "over payment" and / or money.

It's good old check kiting with a confidence con tossed on top.

**edit**

While the above is true, the pattern is a huge red flag and no reason to even bother depositing. Just move on if you ever see this sort of pattern. New wrinkles get thrown in all the time and with all sorts of digital systems out there, the capacity for scammers to increase the surface plausibility increases.

 

[Trucker3573]

Deposit and wait for clear?

Nothing.

Deposit and "return the over payment" or send the item on? Loss of the "over payment" and / or money.

It's good old check kiting with a confidence con tossed on top.

**edit**

While the above is true, the pattern is a huge red flag and no reason to even bother depositing. Just move on if you ever see this sort of pattern. New wrinkles get thrown in all the time and with all sorts of digital systems out there, the capacity for scammers to increase the surface plausibility increases.

Ok so they hope you will send the overage back before it is even realized the check bounced.

It’s funny though as my best online buying experience was from that site. I was hesitant but it was a 22 fx streamline in like new condition and is a great gun. Here hasn’t been so much the case. This place is 2 for 4. 25 streamline arrived with a snapped in two stock. Ordered a crap ton of jsb 18.1 from a member and every tin I have opened has been flat out in horrendous shape. The crazy thing about those is how well that damn streamline still shoots the bent up pellets so it just is what it is. My Maverick and fx 15.89 pellets from here were excellent.

 

[Bill_D]

That's the eBay, Craigslist, Classifieds - Check Scam -they have been doing that for years now. 99.9% chance this guy or who ever is not even in the USA.

 

[HogKiller]

Deposit and wait for clear?

Nothing.

Deposit and "return the over payment" or send the item on? Loss of the "over payment" and / or money.

It's good old check kiting with a confidence con tossed on top.

**edit**

While the above is true, the pattern is a huge red flag and no reason to even bother depositing. Just move on if you ever see this sort of pattern. New wrinkles get thrown in all the time and with all sorts of digital systems out there, the capacity for scammers to increase the surface plausibility increases.

I have a small business, I get these all the time, they want 2,000 white tees screen printed, generally all the same size, last one was for a field trip for a local collage, I called the collage to see if it was legit, nope. Same story though, send a check for too much and send them the balance.

 

[Simplemann]

"Talk to the financials"??? That alone is a red flag for me. Thanks for sharing your experience

 

[Thach2264]

That’s why Paypal or USPS money order only. And always pay with Paypal “good” NOT friend and family

 

[SandShobbies]

Classifieds are full of scammers stick to eBay or Amazon the only crappy part is they take some of your money but in the long run everything is handled by them for our stuff

 

[Motorhead]

Facebook Market Place is just as bad if not worse !!!

 

[SandShobbies]

Facebook Market Place is just as bad if not worse !!!

Yep also when we posted a while back Facebook removed some of our posts for weapon’s content

 

[Motorhead]

There clear rules state no firearms / weapons best i call in reading it many moons ago ... No ?
I'm talking scammers, double talkers and thief's ...

 

[Goldwing]

I sold a camera lens for $1600 and the scammer sent me two counterfeit US Money orders, totaling 2K and that was a red flag right off
Scammer said keep the extra $400
If I was to deposit the checks the lens would be sent and gone and the bank would have informed me that the 2K would not be deposited
The other give away was that the MO had no George Washington watermark on them, seen in the picture
The MO came out of Nigeria where they first print the MO but can't get the watermark right, BEWARE OF THESE SOB'S
The Postal inspectors that picked the MO's up told me to try not to touch the checks next time so they could lift prints off of them

 

[Florida_Man]

I sold a camera lens for $1600 and the scammer sent me two counterfeit US Money orders, totaling 2K and that was a red flag right off
Scammer said keep the extra $400
If I was to deposit the checks the lens would be sent and gone and the bank would have informed me that the 2K would not be deposited
The other give away was that the MO had no George Washington watermark on them, seen in the picture
The MO came out of Nigeria where they first print the MO but can't get the watermark right, BEWARE OF THESE SOB'S
The Postal inspectors that picked the MO's up told me to try not to touch the checks next time so they could lift prints off of them
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Thanks for sharing.
I once sold an on Nikkor 105 micro manual focus lens on ebay. I clearly put in the listing that it was a manual focus only lens and an F mount. A person buys it, says it doesn't focus and reports the transaction. They kept the lens, got the money back, and I was out a lens. They never set it back. The complete one sidedness of disputes on ebay turned me off to the platform. It wasn't an expensive lens, it was the principle of them taking the side of a scammer buyer.