Include me in the "we" who is against this movement, as it will cost more than it will gain. Less than 1% of the population hunts in this state, one of the lowest percentages of hunters per capita in the nation. Sierra Pacific, one of the largest private land holders in the state use to allow hunting access, has already announced as of July 1 that no public access is allowed on its land due to fire danger. Closing National Forest Land is the latest tactic to prevent hunting in this state, and they've done it the last two hunting seasons. Expect it again before the bow opener in the D Zones. If you don't live in this state, you have no idea what it's really like. Fish and Game changed it's name to Fish and Wildlife because it's run by a bunch of vegans and vegetarians. I've been to the annual Warden/hunter Ed convention the last time it was at Squaw. Fish and Wildlife is not pro-hunting and not pro-expansion of hunting tools. And I don't really care about other countries and their perspectives on our rights. More will be lost than gained in the pursuit of airguns and big game, and if you think they won't require non-lead you're delusion and ill-informed. I have a few boxes of Lehigh Defense .457, which have not and will not be regularly available and when they are, they're well over $2 a shot. They don't work near as well as a Nielsen 350 grain. We currently have great airgun hunting opportunities in CA. Look how poorly big game is managed in this state and why-cats and bears are crushing the fawn and deer population because of public outcry. I have spoken with Fish and Wildlife biologists who do not hesitate to state both populations are way beyond carrying capacity. Fish and Wildlife does not listen to science and wildlife biologists, they are beholden to public opinion. There was actually a study that has all but disappeared from the internet from sometime around 2011-2013 that showed that the lead ban had no effect on the condors, but that didn't matter. Science doesn't matter in CA unless it's "science" that supports the progressive agenda. So, for those who'd like to destroy our coyote, turkey, quail, squirrel, and other small game air gun hunting because you dream of hunting a dog size deer in a forest you will have no access to, just make sure we know who you are so we can place blame appropriately. I've used non-lead projectiles in .22 and .25 and they suck. I don't want to be using them for small game hunting. Ever.