Boat tail slugs - not used by more than a handful?

I like them....for my heavier slugs....
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Since it displaces so much lead in the base....
It will make it a longer slug, compared to a flat or dished base slug!!

Stuart
 
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I imagine that air vs powder makes the difference. The boattail will be less air efficient that a flat or dish base. More surface area that air has to push for energy and also creating more turbulence in the chamber as well.
Isn’t the surface area the same for all same caliber guns? You’re talking Internal Ballistics since the External Ballistics of a boat tail are much better than flat or dish base slugs.
 
Isn’t the surface area the same for all same caliber guns? You’re talking Internal Ballistics since the External Ballistics of a boat tail are much better than flat or dish base slugs.
Look at the pic above my comment. Surface area on the flat or dish is much less where the air pushes vs the boattail that has airspace all around the lower dish up to the sidewall of the slug. You lose speed due to this. I would like to see numbers in comparison.
 
It was discussed a couple of years ago, but surely some advancements have been made in slug and barrel technology. With G1 BCs considerably better than other slugs and even .22 RF, you’d think shooters would be all the over them like white on rice…? Manufacturers also…. WTF?
I guess what i am saying is, they would be more expensive and less shot count 2 things that would be more deterrant for air users.
 
Look at the pic above my comment. Surface area on the flat or dish is much less where the air pushes vs the boattail that has airspace all around the lower dish up to the sidewall of the slug. You lose speed due to this. I would like to see numbers in comparison.
So the air bypasses the tapered sidewall and only pushes on the flat back portion? I’m thinking there’s more to it than just the flat back portion…. IMHO.
When I run weight vs speed for both they seem consistent.
 
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So the air bypasses the tapered sidewall and only pushes on the flat back portion? I’m thinking there’s more to it than just the flat back portion…. IMHO.
When I run weight vs speed for both they seem consistent.
I have just worked on alot of aircraft props and compressor blades. When anything is pushing air or being pushed by air. They are more efficient when flat or dished vs a deviation., if the speed is the same out of the same weight slug then awesome, are they more expensive, i really do not see any out when i am looking.
 
Boat tails will reduce subsonic drag and are at their most efficient at speeds of about 1050ft/sec. They also reduce stability, so spin rates need to be slightly higher than necessary for a cylindrical based slug. They will be most effective in long range shooting, but they will also reduce cross wind effects at any range.

The above assumes the boat tail is visible to the air and that it has been designed properly. The vast majority of boat tail slug designs I have seen have not been properly designed and are almost certainly doing nothing, if you are lucky, except add a little extra mass for a higher sectional density. If you are unlucky, the badly designed boat tails are drastically reducing dynamic stability, which will give flight problems.

On most of the designs the angles are far too high and the boat tail lengths are often too long. The angles the air on slugs can turn through are very small, and the air simply cannot turn enough to follow the majority of tail designs. The result is that the air breaks away at the end of the cylindrical section, just as it would if the boat tail was not there.

There are some new Bobs Boat Tail designs available for self casters with boat tails designed to work properly based on what I have said above.
 
I can only speak about the .25 cal boat tail slugs vs. the same weighted flat or dish base slugs. With the rifles I have it seems that I get more distance and accuracy from the boat tail vs any other. From 44 to 61 grain slugs vs the same weighted flat or dish based just don't reach out as far.
What is the cost compared to NSA slugs? And did you have to change anything from factory to shoot the boattails?