Brand new M3 with good 1st regulator

[mubhaur]

Today a user brought his brand new M3 just to show me and inspect it.

The 1st regulator of this M3 is working great. Quick recovery and very nominal creep. Creep might get better as it will brake in.

Looks like perhaps FX has made some improvements to new 1st regulators of M3 guns.

Let's see through the test of time.

Bhaur

 

[HogKiller]

Today a user brought his brand new M3 just to show me and inspect it.

The 1st regulator of this M3 is working great. Quick recovery and very nominal creep. Creep might get better as it will brake in.

Looks like perhaps FX has made some improvements to new 1st regulators of M3 guns.

Let's see through the test of time.

Bhaur

Or they just got lucky.

 

[mubhaur]

Or they just got lucky.

May be, that's why I said let's see test of time.

FX normally goes on improving their products.

 

[Trucker3573]

I don’t get why there is this supposed wide spread issue. Aren’t all the regs the same? Wouldn’t this plague all their guns dual, single or whatever??

 

[HogKiller]

I don’t get why there is this supposed wide spread issue. Aren’t all the regs the same? Wouldn’t this plague all their guns dual, single or whatever??

My uneducated guess, is the Belleville stacks vary. A .42 avg. stack is 100 bar max, .48 is 75-125, .53 is 117 bar MINIMUM. Unless they get precisely the same thickness on every washer every time you'll have variation. Throw in some variations on the overall height of the piston and you've tossed in another variable. I'm almost thinking that the Lane regs may work better, coil springs, but, in my case, they don't make them for Mavericks.

 

[zer0dev]

The front reg is not an AMP reg. Mine is also inaccurate by more than 20 bar sometimes, mostly if it has been sitting or I just filled the bottle. It will settle after a few shots. But I have not had it affect my 2nd reg's accuracy or shot recovery to any noticeable degree.

 

[mubhaur]

I understand that the platforms like Impact have the inherent capability of evolution towards betterment.

Further members would have noticed that some after market part companies started offering the bottle adapter to delete the 1st regulator.

When we enter into achieving competition level of accuracy then every little thing matters.

I have been handling and fixing the issues on such M3 which came to me with such issues.

But we should not forget that only that person complains who gets a lemon and the rest which are in majority do not speak.

So discussing any matter doesn't mean that every gun has that issue.

Here we just try to share and learn.

Further in case of any issues FX is always there to help you out.

Am I right?

Bhaur

 

[Enkey]

Hi guys
Zer0dev
MKII's have only one regulator and can operate with a pressure differential of 100bars without problems. The main problem is in the slow recovery, not in the regulation difference.

Bhaur
You are right, only the one who receives the lemon speaks.
Regards
Enkey

 

[GA_LeadHead]

The first reg is overrated.
I don't get too bent out of shape if its not accurate. So long as it basically performs in stepping down the pressure a bit, it doesn't really matter.

 

[stretch56]

I've got a brand new M3...."nvr been shoot by me or even out of the house...1st reg is blowin bubbles.....I've heard that 1st reg is a bear to break loose.....Any one taken theres out...& how bad was it.....I've watched the vids,but usually.....its mentioned..they broke theres loose earlier for the ease in the vid......I'm thinkn they don't want you to see the 5' breaker bar they use to break it loose....LOL

 

[Airgunmann]

With the first reg my experience hàs been once you change out the plastic piston and go to the brass piston most of the problems go away thinking the plastic changes to much wether it's hot out side or cold and washer stack gets bound up I don't know for sure just my thoughts on it

 

[Airgunmann]

I used a socket and a ratchet there not to bad that way

 

[rc4fun]

I have a small electric impact wrench that I use for a lot of things including making short work of removing the regulator.

 

[stretch56]

With the first reg my experience hàs been once you change out the plastic piston and go to the brass piston most of the problems go away thinking the plastic changes to much wether it's hot out side or cold and washer stack gets bound up I don't know for sure just my thoughts on it

thanks AGM.........mines blowin bubbles out the weep hole...thinkn about the Huma upgrade as it appears this is an on goin problem with fx's regs....my Maverick is ROCK SOLID & unbelievably accurate....(thanks to Ken Hicks}...not a single problem ...the wildcats the same way.....think ill go with the upgrade Huma..was just concerned about how much force is required to break it loose....withOUT breaking it...lol...thnx for the reply

 

[stretch56]

RC4fun......I was wondering if that was an option as I have impacts as well....i'm gona give it a shot......thanx

 

[Airgunmann]

I upgraded my amp mk2 to a brass piston and it's been good all I did was shoot fx a email and they sent me some under warranty for a friend's M3 I replaced. To be honest I don't remember how hard it came off I know I didn't use a cheater pipe on the ratchet just regular length 1/2 inch ratchet with the correct socket and put the gun in a soft jawed vise if it doesn't come loose easily smack the end of the ratchet handle with your palm to break it free

 

[Airgunmann]

Huma regs are good too but it is cheaper to just rebuild the amp regs and use the newer brass piston

 

[HogKiller]

thanks AGM.........mines blowin bubbles out the weep hole...thinkn about the Huma upgrade as it appears this is an on goin problem with fx's regs....my Maverick is ROCK SOLID & unbelievably accurate....(thanks to Ken Hicks}...not a single problem ...the wildcats the same way.....think ill go with the upgrade Huma..was just concerned about how much force is required to break it loose....withOUT breaking it...lol...thnx for the reply

If it's got an AMP reg, the bottom o-ring on the adjustor is bad, 5 min fix.

 

[rc4fun]

Just remember to use a plastic or cut a cardboard washer to put over the reg to prevent the block from getting scratched.

 

[stretch56]

I've got the old & the new piston.....the flush delron is my choice.....I like having spares.....Im not the patient type....so you figure how to get around "urself"..lol.....when I saw the delron pistions after I opened the guns....kinda gave you an idea what models you were dealing with....i did get a huma for the wildcat 177.. (tuber)....