BRK Ghost Review

Yesterday I shot for hrs, and it was glorious.

99% of the shooting was on paper @ 100 yards. The goal was to compare my three best options for long range: .22 MRD from a Veteran Long, .20/15.89 from the Ghost, and .20/18.9 from the Ghost.

I played with speeds from 870-960 with the .22 MRDs from the Vet.

The .20/15.89s were at 910-915.

The .20/18.9s NSA slugs were from 870-880.

The idea here was to see which combination is my best option for Xtreme Field Target. That means no sighters, no wind flags, first shot ALWAYS counts. As such, I used no wind flags and scored all shots taken.

I used EBR targets and scoring, plugged to .30. I shot all six targets on each paper, one card with each projectile. I then averaged the 5 shot groups from each projectile for all shots taken.

The .22/25.4 MRDs averaged 40.2, so figure 200ish for an entire "card."

The .20/15.89 averaged 41, so about 205 for an EBR card.

The .20/18.9 averaged 44, so in the 220 area.

And yes, those aren't great EBR scores, but I also scored every shot I took. With unlimited sighters that would probably be up another 15-20 points for each. In the airgun competitions I focus on, sighters aren't allowed, and that's how I wanted to do the assessment.

It was windy, but not unmanageable, during the time I was shooting NOAA recorded winds from 8-24mph at the weather station a few miles from my house.

Going from the pellets to the slugs felt like cheating.
Of the 18, 5 shot groups (90 shots) only one of them scored outside the 7 ring when using the slugs.
These two were the high point from the slugs, there were lots of 45, and 46s as well. Only the one group that had the 6 scored less than 40 ,(a 39 in this case) the rest of the 5 shot groups were 40+.
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Looks like I'll be shooting .20/18.9grain NSA slugs from the Ghost at some Xtreme Field Target matches this winter.
 
Have you had any issues with your cocking lever bolt coming loose? I’ve tightened mine twice and it’s worked loose each time. I finally used Blue LocTite on it after thoroughly cleaning the threads.

I have not had any issues there. I need to look at tins and boxes, but something like 12,000 shots now and haven't ever touched the bolt on the cocking lever.

The blue loctite sound like a perfect solution though.
 
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My ghost arrived Saturday yesterday evening and I set her up the next morning - today. I posted efforts in a separate thread. The power wheel came from AOA on 15 and regulator at 100. It’s pushing jsb 10.34 at 860-868 very accurately for me being unaccustomed to the rig. Odd thing is I tried moving the power wheel to max and no difference in speed which, I suppose, is to be expected with regulator being set at 100. Since it was shooting accurately I turned it back to 15 and went for lunch. Trigger spring def needs to be changed to a lighter one. Other then the trigger spring I’m Quite pleased so far.
 
A real quick calculation would show you that it's not near as neutered as sub 12. I find it quite remarkable that such a short barrel could produce the power the little Carbine and 17" barrel is achieving. Fact is, if slugs are what you really want to shoot, they make a .177 HP version with a 23" barrel that would be much more suited for this, which can run over 30 FPE easily. Where I think this Carbine rig is going to shine and its actual wheelhouse, is around the 20 FPE area.

That is until that .22 - 23" barrel is installed. It will easily produce 50 FPE and can be called upon for 55 FPE if desired.
can you make the cabine into a plus with power? Or can you lower the plus from 30fpe down to 20fpe for ht target shooting thanks michigan keith
 
My understanding is that they all have the same hammer now. There were at least two hammer springs at one point, 0.047" and 0.052" wire if I remember right. The highest I got was just a hair over 50fpe in .22 with a 23inch barrel. And that was with less hammer weight than current guns have.

The 17inch Carbine .177 barrel I have has a tiny little transfer port, which is another of the factors involved in power output. Seems like 22-23foot pounds was the max it would do, being strangled at that transfer port.

So I've run from 18-51 fpe with the same basic gun, just changing the configuration and settings.
 
First you guys should check the specs and witch gun your talking about. Aoa lists the carbine and the + at 18 fpe and the hp at 30 fpe both the carbine and + have 17” barrels and the hp has a 23” poly barrel. I have a hp and shoot ft with it but i had to change the hammer spring and can only regulate velocity with the reg the hammer wheel does basically nothing. Cant speak for the other 2 but the hp shoots 13 gr jsb great if you can live with the way you have to set it up. Oh and its $700 for a barrel no mag or pellet probe
 
First you guys should check the specs and witch gun your talking about. Aoa lists the carbine and the + at 18 fpe and the hp at 30 fpe both the carbine and + have 17” barrels and the hp has a 23” poly barrel. I have a hp and shoot ft with it but i had to change the hammer spring and can only regulate velocity with the reg the hammer wheel does basically nothing. Cant speak for the other 2 but the hp shoots 13 gr jsb great if you can live with the way you have to set it up. Oh and its $700 for a barrel no mag or pellet probe

We're in agreement here. The valve, hammer, and plenum are now the same in all three OEM configurations (Carbine/Plus/HP).

I alluded to the HPs probably coming with the 0.052" wire hammer spring and the Carbine coming with the 0.047" wire hammer spring. But don't know that as fact, just assumption based on what I've experienced.

Other than that, the bottle size doesn't effect the power output, making the caliber and barrel length the primary difference in how much power each of the OEM configurations produce.
 
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I hadn't ever looked but just checked on the $700 you cited for a barrel....

Looks like barrel kit price is dependent on which barrel you're ordering. I see a probe in the photo but no magazine.
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If it was me, I'd order the configuration with the most expensive barrel kit that I'd be interested in already installed in the gun. Ie order an HP if I wanted a barrel that long. And then for the cheaper barrel/caliber I'd order it as a kit. Save some money that way.(I think).
 
I hadn't ever looked but just checked on the $700 you cited for a barrel....

Looks like barrel kit price is dependent on which barrel you're ordering. I see a probe in the photo but no magazine.
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If it was me, I'd order the configuration with the most expensive barrel kit that I'd be interested in already installed in the gun. Ie order an HP if I wanted a barrel that long. And then for the cheaper barrel/caliber I'd order it as a kit. Save some money that way.(I think).
Wow i was going by what i was told on the phone by aoa. They told me $700 barrel. $115 mag and i made him stop there. Lol thats how i ended up with 2 ghosts.
 
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First you guys should check the specs and witch gun your talking about. Aoa lists the carbine and the + at 18 fpe and the hp at 30 fpe both the carbine and + have 17” barrels and the hp has a 23” poly barrel. I have a hp and shoot ft with it but i had to change the hammer spring and can only regulate velocity with the reg the hammer wheel does basically nothing. Cant speak for the other 2 but the hp shoots 13 gr jsb great if you can live with the way you have to set it up. Oh and its $700 for a barrel no mag or pellet probe
$700???? I think that’s the chrono version for the delta wolf? $375 for a ghost no chrono barrel?