Even in their video it's just a standard household plug, same as mine, in the LC-110:
That's the old model, I wish they still make that plug
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Budget $2000 for Compressor. Any suggestions?
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That's the old model, I wish they still make that plug
Glad I got the old model in 2019 for $2K, sorry man. Maybe the Air Omega; my father has one and likes his for his SCBA tank and/or smaller bottles?
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Thanks Dan. That detail eluded me. Last I checked I hadn’t seen the Icons available in the U.S. I think you’ll like the Coltri especially if you got an MCH-6 or MCH-3 at a bargain. Which model did you purchase? I came close to purchasing an MCH-6. For the price point it seems like a good buy.
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@cccal No worries. I wasn’t sure what was going on. I just want to help contribute accurate information to this thread for those going through the process of shopping around for quality HPA compressors and researching. It is a considerable investment for many of us hobbyists.
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I buy from Palm Beach Airguns from time to time. They always seem to have one, or two, used compressors for sale in the $2000 range. I would suggest calling them. Also, I would ask about their pre-ship testing of a used compressor and what their warranty, or support, is after sale.
https://palmbeachairguns.com/product-category/4500-psi-air-systems/
https://palmbeachairguns.com/product-category/4500-psi-air-systems/
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I am in the same boat. In fact, when I purchased on of the units of AoA, staff had different explanations for the reason of the RV plug, which should have turned me off right there. But wanting a compressor, I bought it anyway. However, when I got it home, the spec plate on the compressor did not say anything about 30 AMP requirements as some staff at AofA told me; in fact it specifically noted that it was still 110 volts w/no change in the AMPs. I invited an electrician for a quote who indicated it would cost me $600 to put in an RV plug. When I mentioned the compressor and he checked the specs, he then withdrew his quote indicating that he could not help me given the inconsistencies. I returned the compressor after that.
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This makes little sense to me. Here's my motor plate and control box ratings, 14.5 amp, which is in spec with NEC 14ga 15A 120V. I'm running it on a 20A circuit for the surge current.
I can't understand why a 30A plug end is required. Surely the motor and control box which house the run capacitors are wired for phase, common, and ground? The Daystate plate shows 1.1kW or 1,100W which is well under 15A of current draw.
If the current draw and wiring are the same why not just replace the plug end?
I can't understand why a 30A plug end is required. Surely the motor and control box which house the run capacitors are wired for phase, common, and ground? The Daystate plate shows 1.1kW or 1,100W which is well under 15A of current draw.
If the current draw and wiring are the same why not just replace the plug end?
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I think Nuvair usually charges the same for gas or electric MCH6. I bought an electric MCH6 in 2020 and paid $2734.88 (including tax and shipping) from Nuvair to my door. Hour meter is standard. Auto stop would have been extra. Typically, you tell them what it's for (paintball/PCP airgun) and they will configure it with appropriate valves/connections. From what I remember, it was only a couple of days from phone order to arrival (I'm in California and only 140 miles from Nuvair).
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This makes little sense to me. Here's my motor plate and control box ratings, 14.5 amp, which is in spec with NEC 14ga 15A 120V. I'm running it on a 20A circuit for the surge current.
I can't understand why a 30A plug end is required. Surely the motor and control box which house the run capacitors are wired for phase, common, and ground? The Daystate plate shows 1.1kW or 1,100W which is well under 15A of current draw.
If the current draw and wiring are the same why not just replace the plug end?
AOA should really use common plugs for this model like yours. But your picture really helps. At least I have some hard numbers to go by now. All of the electricians I talked to were scratching their heads when I told them I wanted a new RV plug outlet for a compressor.
The cost of LC110 and outlet install is approaching Daystate Type 2 model in price. Starting to think long and hard about this model. Comes with a MCH6 motor as well. Just connect to my dryer outlet, saves some trouble of looking for someone to install a dedicated outlet. But the AOA sales guy did mention I would need to wire a 220v plug for the compressor itself as it doesn't come with one. I wonder how difficult would that be, can't find any info on that anywhere.
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Easy-peasy to install a dryer plug (either 3 or 4 conductor) head... but unplugging the dryer and plugging in the compressor will be a hassle and those are some large gauge blades and conductors you'll be repeatedly disconnecting and connecting that carry a high amperage load everytime you want to fill. So it's a physical hassle and perhaps an insertion duty issue with the receptacle.
I'll admit I am entirely baffled by the 30 A plug-end if the motor ratings and current ratings align. If the 30A plug is just 3 conductors it's a matter of $5 or less to snip and strip the wire and install a standard NEMA 5-15P plug head or if you want to get fancy a NEMA 6-20P with a simple receptacle swap if you wanted.
This kind of "feels" like some weird "NEC" thing where a 30A plug makes sense... but actually doesn't, based on the load?
Either way, FWIW, I love my LC-110.
I'll admit I am entirely baffled by the 30 A plug-end if the motor ratings and current ratings align. If the 30A plug is just 3 conductors it's a matter of $5 or less to snip and strip the wire and install a standard NEMA 5-15P plug head or if you want to get fancy a NEMA 6-20P with a simple receptacle swap if you wanted.
This kind of "feels" like some weird "NEC" thing where a 30A plug makes sense... but actually doesn't, based on the load?
Either way, FWIW, I love my LC-110.
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I've been using the Omega Turbo Charger for two years, filling tanks to 4500 psi with zero problems. Fills 80 cu ft tank from 3000 to 4500 psi in about 20 minutes.
Omega Turbo Charger 4500 psi Electric Air Compressor (airgunsofarizona.com)
Omega Turbo Charger 4500 psi Electric Air Compressor (airgunsofarizona.com)
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This compressor deal is so crazy. The air gun industry is going nuts now bringing out all these new pcps with out putting any consideration on the problems of
the compressors cost. You can bet in a year or so there will be so many used air guns on the market at bargain prices. I have said this before and will again. The
New buyer has no idea how unreliable the. Cheaper compressors are and once they do they will be baying out and selling there guns. The average Joe lunch bucket
Guy will not fork out two or three or more grand for a compressor. Air guns are neat I grant you. But with every thing going up now days this can,t keep going in this industry
Except for the few. I saw the same thing happen in the racing go kart industry in the 1970,s. You could be set up in a competitive racing kart and almost every thing
You needed back then. For $2000. Today if you want to be ab!e to compete $15000 to $20000 or more. It drove the average karting family out of it. Not many tracks or
Shops around today. The releyblity of entry level compressors needs to be addessed.
Fly
the compressors cost. You can bet in a year or so there will be so many used air guns on the market at bargain prices. I have said this before and will again. The
New buyer has no idea how unreliable the. Cheaper compressors are and once they do they will be baying out and selling there guns. The average Joe lunch bucket
Guy will not fork out two or three or more grand for a compressor. Air guns are neat I grant you. But with every thing going up now days this can,t keep going in this industry
Except for the few. I saw the same thing happen in the racing go kart industry in the 1970,s. You could be set up in a competitive racing kart and almost every thing
You needed back then. For $2000. Today if you want to be ab!e to compete $15000 to $20000 or more. It drove the average karting family out of it. Not many tracks or
Shops around today. The releyblity of entry level compressors needs to be addessed.
Fly
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I know $2,000. seems expensive. Looking at it from another perspective, that is less than the cost of one high quality PCP rifle. I think most of us have more than one PCP, and the more powerful ones are pretty air hungry. Having my own source of air definitely makes shooting much more enjoyable.
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