few weeks ago i ordered one of these Diana mounts (AOA ) . works ok ? yesterday i ordered a china Amazon copy , delivered today . ($16) planning on doing the 4 corner mod to tighten everything up , let you know later, few days anyway .
Bullseye ZR Mount
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Mr. Beer
Just a heads up. There's not much material to the sides of the Chinese mount to tap and thread a screw.
One possible solution I was thinking was using JB weld to thicken that area. I haven't tried it as I have limited experience with JB weld. One problem I foresee was that as you tighten the set screw, it might lift up the JB weld layer? ...maybe JB weld a nut to the side? If others have a better solution, please chime in.
Here's the four corner mod on a real Diana not the Chinese mount.
www.airgunnation.com
Just a heads up. There's not much material to the sides of the Chinese mount to tap and thread a screw.
One possible solution I was thinking was using JB weld to thicken that area. I haven't tried it as I have limited experience with JB weld. One problem I foresee was that as you tighten the set screw, it might lift up the JB weld layer? ...maybe JB weld a nut to the side? If others have a better solution, please chime in.
Here's the four corner mod on a real Diana not the Chinese mount.
RWS Bullseye ZR (Zero Recoil) Mounts and Improvement
A few have recently asked how I maintain good accuracy using the RWS ZR Bullseye (and clone) mounts. I take no credit for this method. I initially saw these being made by Hector Medina, and his are much more finely executed. Here is what I have done to eliminate the slop in the mechanism...
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Be nice if they made the ZR mounts adjustable for elevation and windage.
or Sportmatch makes a adjustable recoilless mount.
There are options if you are handy with tools and have time.
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Gonna have to shim the front. Or bend your barrel till you have some droop ha ha ha. My 56T/H is same way. I used yellow Teflon tape, the kind meant for gas connections, in front of mine. Per Hector’s instructions.
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Diana Bullseye ZR ain't what it's cracked up to be -- but there's a fix
I bought one of these Diana Bullseye ZR mounts for my HW97K and then gave up on it after a few tins of pellets because a significant amount of play had developed and I was getting a lot of point-of-aim shift. You'd get a group going-- then whammo, its like you started a whole new group at 1/2"...
www.airgunnation.com you drill from the top down on the mount
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shortly when the mail get here i will have both Z mounts . will see what go's .
BIG $$ difference in the two versions , $67 VS $16
BIG $$ difference in the two versions , $67 VS $16
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Great info. Note that those are the older German made mounts. Believe it or not, the newer Chinese ones are generally better out of the box. The mods will still help though.Diana Bullseye ZR ain't what it's cracked up to be -- but there's a fix
I bought one of these Diana Bullseye ZR mounts for my HW97K and then gave up on it after a few tins of pellets because a significant amount of play had developed and I was getting a lot of point-of-aim shift. You'd get a group going-- then whammo, its like you started a whole new group at 1/2"...
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you could drill these from the top or even the bottom drill, tap, insert thick felt plug and back with flat bottom grub screw
i wonder if you could gain elevation by having one set of screws from the bottom and the other from the top
these have been on my list of things to buy but it is a long list
i wonder if you could gain elevation by having one set of screws from the bottom and the other from the top
these have been on my list of things to buy but it is a long list
This company, Vector Optics, makes zero recoil mounts for springers in both 1” and 30mm tube size - and offers dovetail or picatinny/weaver in each. Price is $24.90
vector2007.com
I use their adjustable scope rings and really like them. I noticed these zero recoil mounts when I was on their site.
I have a Sportsmatch Dampa mount on my HW97, but they are pricey.
If you sign up for Vecto’s mailing list, they give you 10% off your first order.
-Ed
30mm One Piece Zero Recoil Dovetail Mount
Feature 30mm Diameter, 40mm 1.6in From Bottom to Ring Center, 4 Screws Per Ring Recoil Spring Loaded, 11mm Dovetail Mount w/ Anti-Retreat Pin, Full Metal Specification Ring Diameter: 30mm Overall Length: 122m / 4.8in Overall Height: 61mm / 2.4in Mount Length: 65mm / 2.6in Ring Width: 48mm /...
vector2007.com I use their adjustable scope rings and really like them. I noticed these zero recoil mounts when I was on their site.
I have a Sportsmatch Dampa mount on my HW97, but they are pricey.
If you sign up for Vecto’s mailing list, they give you 10% off your first order.
-Ed
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I have one of the early ZR pieces of junk. Newspaper has more strength. The new version is much stronger. Crow
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That's what I was going to say. Doing it from the side will just bind up the rods where from the top it will just push it down into the groove.
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if the mount had enough slop in the rails you might be able to get 1mm of rise and fall out of the mount to take advantage of droop
i will get on in and see and i have a 54 to use it on or a box to through it in with all the stuff i don't use
i will get on in and see and i have a 54 to use it on or a box to through it in with all the stuff i don't use
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ok , mail delivered . This Mizugiwa / Amazon zero mount seems an ok build , heavier springs but i do not have a high speed camera to see the action in real time . i am thinking of using my heaviest scope , same HW77 and switch mounts
rain just started supposed to last thru the night and maybe noon tomorrow ? il just have to dodge the rain
(the taps are from the top into the sliding portion )
Diana Z mounted on HW97 Athlon scope just to try it
China Z mount now on HW77 with BSA 36 power scope for todays shoot
yes you have to re zero your scope for the higher mount ..
rain just started supposed to last thru the night and maybe noon tomorrow ? il just have to dodge the rain
(the taps are from the top into the sliding portion )
Diana Z mounted on HW97 Athlon scope just to try it
China Z mount now on HW77 with BSA 36 power scope for todays shoot
yes you have to re zero your scope for the higher mount ..
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ok both the diana and the china Z mount have a lot of play . the Diana seems to hold POI better / not so much with the china one .Mr. Beer
Just a heads up. There's not much material to the sides of the Chinese mount to tap and thread a screw.
One possible solution I was thinking was using JB weld to thicken that area. I haven't tried it as I have limited experience with JB weld. One problem I foresee was that as you tighten the set screw, it might lift up the JB weld layer? ...maybe JB weld a nut to the side? If others have a better solution, please chime in.
Here's the four corner mod on a real Diana not the Chinese mount.
RWS Bullseye ZR (Zero Recoil) Mounts and Improvement
A few have recently asked how I maintain good accuracy using the RWS ZR Bullseye (and clone) mounts. I take no credit for this method. I initially saw these being made by Hector Medina, and his are much more finely executed. Here is what I have done to eliminate the slop in the mechanism...
As to the 4 corner repair , i will try to glue a flat plate of brass or aluminum on for a thicker material to drill and thread , wish me luck .
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