Buying in August but which one?

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dodge3500

dodge3500

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Ok guys and gals I'm looking to purchase a quality PCP rifle in .22.
Im looking at a raw.22, American arms Evol, daystate wolverine ,brocock bantam or a FX royal.
Im a lefty so gotta be at lest amby. 
I want 50 yard accuracy with highest shot count possible and 20 to 30 ish fpe available,it doesn't have to have a regulator or power adjuster but would be nice.I also prefer synthetic over wood.
USA made is a plus but not a necessity if requirements are meet better by other manufacturer.
Looking for suggestions on rifles even if it's not listed .
Budget 1200$ to say 2200$
I've already had a cricket carbine that was sweet but me and the mag loading just didn't get along so easy mag loading is a must.(my right hand has limited use due to accident)

Thanks for any suggestions or data from owners .
 
I have the Royale .22, Wolverine .22, and RAW .25. I'm not selling any of them. All good guns. Synthetic stock is only on available for the Royale. Ambi on the synthetic I don't know. Royale for the money is what I would choose.
Royale- Lightest, reg and power adj.
Daystate- Best looking, no reg, and no power adj
RAW- Built like a tank, tuned, reg, wait to be made (but USA), and no power adj
 
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I've had 2 Royale's. The first one, I traded my Bobcat to get. Then, he ended up buying it back from me a few months later when I had my eye on something else. I got that "something else" but, the Royale left such an impression that I couldn't stop thinking about it. So, I'm on my second Royale. Just like Dirte said... It's on a short list of rifles that I wouldn't consider selling.
However, the magazines are tedious to load. With what you mentioned, that would be a concern. There are single shot trays available on Ebay that work very well. But, if you want/need the magazine, it's definitely something to think about. Try one, if you know anyone nearby. 
I've never owned a Daystate but, the magazines appear to be much easier to load and use. Daystate's also have single shot trays available. 
Those would be my two recommendations. 
Tom
 
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Got some great choices! Ive had a RAW .30 and 2 Daystates however there Regal XLs. The RAW was something else. Built like an absolute tank. Very accurate and powerful. Reg worked very good. Long and heavy though if that's an issue for you. 

Not sure about the Daystate Wolverines but I love the Regals. Very accurate and a great trigger. Can't say that with the standard Airstream LDC that there super quiet and probably why most go with a Hugget on them.

Sounds like a Royale would be a solid choice in your list as well. Plenty of happy people with them! 

I've been waiting for people to get the EVOL in there hands as I really like how they are built. More like a Regal in length.

Also since there's others you'd like to consider check out the WAR COBRA that'll be coming out very very soon which is supposed to have some crazy upgrades.

Tons of choices honestly. Id hate to be in that position LOL JK you got plenty of time to decide so do alot of research.
 
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Your budget allows you to choose from a wide choice of quality air rifles. Your choice would be influenced by the primary usage. I own a FX400, Daystate Airwolf in 25, Steyr LG110HP , Cricket.synthetic bullpups in 22 & 25, and a 25 Marauder. I have shot a friends RAW, AA, and FX Wildcat. 

In my opinion the RAW and Airwolf are very accurate but heavy guns, suitable for target or bench rest shooting. The Airwolf,s electronic trigger is truly awesome and it does use an ambI stock. Excellent magazines for both guns with an edge to the superbly crafted Daystate product.

The Crickets are also vey accurate, quite heavy in their synthetic versions, one has to develop an appreciation for the trigger and magazine loading, very reliable with excellent shot count in both 22 & 25.

Steyr LG110HP has the finest mechanical trigger I have ever used, very accurate, easy to swap barrels, single shot only, quite heavy since barrels are full 16mm diameter, pricey. 

FX400 with it,s three level very reproducible power adjuster (30, 20, 12 FT lb) is my favorite gun. The wood stocked version comes with an ambi stock, nice mags, good trigger. I have the older unregulated version which provides within a 15fps extreme spread, 50 shots at high power, 150 at medium and 200 on low. It is quite light. The Wildcat is similar but only has one power setting, is a bullpup and may be somewhat lighter.

The 25 Marauder provides 16 shots with a 10 fps ES, is very accurate, somewhat heavy and not the world,s best trigger. A good value for the money.

Good luck with your choice.
 
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Have both FX Royale and RAW. Never owned a Daystate.

The Royale does better with air than the RAW. 
Royale comes in synthetic, RAW doesn't.
RAW is more money. 
RAW is made in USA. FX in Sweden. 
Accuracy wise, they are about the same. At least mine are. 
Both are regulated.
Royale has a power wheel (three settings on .177 and .22, two settings on .25), RAW doesn't.
Royale is much lighter than the RAW. 2-3 pounds depending on stock choice

Boy, writing this it seems, on paper, that the Royale is a better rifle. But, if I had to choose, I would go with the RAW. They are in a different class in terms of quality of build than the FX guns. FX guns are mass produced. RAW's are basically hand built. 

As others have said, I think you'd be very happy with either. Let us know what you choose. 

Chas
 
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Well, I'm going to go against the flow here and put in a vote for the Brocock Bantam.

I've shot RAWs. RAWs are accurate, consistent, but very heavy. This is a good option for benchrest or field target, but not for anything else, IMO.

I've shot a buddy's Royale 400 and Wolverine; both nice guns.

I have the Compatto, which the Bantam is based on. It is a semi-bullpup, which seems to get some of all the advantages of both bullpups and rifles without any real penalties. It's shorter than a rifle, but with a rifle-length barrel. The shooter's head goes behind the action, so a really high scope mount isn't needed. The action is bumped back a bit, but not so far that additional trigger or cocking linkages are needed. (or electronics) It has a nice big bottle, a nice trigger, and a nice wood stock option. Walther barrel. Nice trigger. Adjustable power.

If it's like the Compatto, the range of power adjustment isn't huge, but it's there. The looks aren't for everyone, but if you like it, I don't think anything else will let you down. Spare mags are expensive, but are coming down. You can save a few bucks ordering them from the UK.

It'll work OK from the bench, but will be a delight to carry in the field, on account of its length.

To me, the Bantam rates out like this:

+ Specs
+ Carbine handling
+ Trigger
+ Barrel
+ Air capacity
+ Value
- Looks/lines
- Not a big range of power adjustment
 
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You might want to consider an FX Streamline in laminate. I own this gun in .22 cal and love it. The laminate stock is beautiful in looks and smooth silky feel. The laminate is the heaviest stock option but even so, the gun is very lightweight compared to a RAW or Mrod or others in that weight range. I have mine paired with a Leupold 3-9x EFR and the total weight is 7lb 4oz including scope, rings and extra moderator. It's at the lower end of your price range but I think the quality and function is outstanding and it would allow you to splurge on a good scope. My shot count on high power is around 50-60 shots. 15.89g JSB 925fps 30-31fpe and with 18.13g JSB 880fps same fpe. Here's a link to mine:
http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/new-22-streamline-laminate/
 
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If you want mags that are easy to load and a crazy accurate gun at the low end of your price range you should consider the Mutant/Veteran. The mags are the easiest to load of any gun I've owned. The trigger isn't as good as my RAW, but its close which means its superb and the Mutant costs about half what the RAW does. I've also owned two FX 400s. The regulated one with the power wheel was one of my favorite guns. I wish I hadn't sold it, but the mags are not user friendly. The beauty of the RAW is you can get exactly what you want if you are willing to wait. I had mine built 2" shorter than the standard length to save some length and weight. It's still pretty heavy for off hand shooting, but I shoot it mostly off the bench. The RAW is the best quality of any air gun I've owned hands down. It will shoot single hole groups at 50 yards all day long and MOA at 100 on calm days. For off hand pest control the Mutant is my go to gun. I haven't had an opportunity to shoot my Mutant over 50 yards, but its deadly accurate at that range.
 
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I have been watching a ton of videos and it looks like the Fx royal 400 mag loading could be an issue for me.The daystate wolverine with the easier looking mag loading and switchable cocking handle looks to be nice as I am a lefty at shooting but the bantam isn't​ outta the race yet either. Im wondering does anyone have a Fx royal close to Knoxville Tennessee that I could try loading and installing the mags?
Thanks
 
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Sounds like you are dead set on a rifle form factor, but I would urge you to at least consider the Mutant/Veteran. You can load the mags with one hand if you have a flat surface to set the mag on. The cocking lever is reversible too so you can cock it with either hand. Putting the mag in the gun is a piece of cake and it indexes flawlessly every time. Its not the prettiest gun, but it's very accurate and very quiet out of the box and has the best trigger available in a bull pup.

One last thought. You should also take a look at the Weihrauch HW100. The mags on it are almost identical to the Mutant's. I've never owned one, but they have terrific reputation and the mags would be much easier for you to load than the FX. I love the Royale, but loading the mags is definitely a two handed task. AOA has the HW on sale at the moment.
 
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First thought is you really can't go wrong with the Royale 400. They are outstanding guns and in your price range you can go top shelf and add a reg ans the optional Huggett mod. The CF bottle is now standard which is a real plus. You will get used to the magazine - it's not difficult once you get the hang of it. With Huggett the OAL is 41" IIRC. So 1.5 or 2" longer than stock. you may find that at lower FPE you need to switch to a different flavor of JSB. Mine liked 16's at full speed and 18's at low speed. The opposite of what you might expect. If you can find an older Royale with LW barrel and no power adjuster they are outstanding deals.

Second thought, and I wouldn't have thought of it if TSP hadn't mentioned it was on sale, but the HW100 series is outstanding. Go for the ones with the Weihrauch mod vs the FSB. I found the FSB to be worthless and then I had to add a mod to the end of it anyway and the gun then topped out at like 46". Way too long for me. The target trigger blade from Rowan Engineering is a must have accessory as is a sling stud replacement front stock screw. My AZ tuned HW100FSB was one of the most accurate airguns I've ever owned. Too bad it was so long, I don't like real long.
 
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"dodge3500"I have been watching a ton of videos and it looks like the Fx royal 400 mag loading could be an issue for me.The daystate wolverine with the easier looking mag loading and switchable cocking handle looks to be nice as I am a lefty at shooting but the bantam isn't​ outta the race yet either. Im wondering does anyone have a Fx royal close to Knoxville Tennessee that I could try loading and installing the mags?
Thanks
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As for the Wolverine.... The bolt does switch from left to right. It takes considerable more effort to pull it back compared to the side lever guns. Also the Daystate mags are just low capacity compared to the FX and RAW. I'm kind of perplexed why Daystate won't enlarge them a bit. The Daystate is the prettiest of the batch in my opinion. 
 
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