Calling someone out??!

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And what we have here kiddies is absolute proof there are no adults on the interwebs...

User one expresses a concern ... User two accuses user one of being a pansy and ignorant. User one is rightly offended and returns the favor ... Ad infinitum...

Absolute proof ...

Wait for it... Someone is about to get pissed.




 
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First, of all the people I hold in high regard on this forum is @l.leon. @l.leon and I have communicated frequently and he is always someone, IMHO, who show respect towards other forum members. I agree with him on personal attacks are not a place for public dirty laundry, and if you won't say something to someone's face, don't say it on the forum.

If posts / individuals get into a "fight" on the forum / internet it is "dogs barking through a fence."

Based off my last statement, I will counter on one point. We have members (I am guilty) who go out on a rant and are called out by the forum members, some times this is needed. However, there is a point of "centering someone" vs personal attacks, and yes there is a difference. You can tell someone to "suck it up" without being rude and using personal attacks on their character. Hopefully, a respectful "centering" can get most people to learn something for the future.


 
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Seems to me their are three places people feel invincible and therefore may potentially become overly aggressive or obnoxious with no real consequences..

1. Their car. (road rage) cuz they can just drive away.

2. On the telephone. I have had people make bomb threats and threaten my life while I worked at a business on the telephones. Btw, I only took incoming calls, so no telemarketing.

3. On the internet.

Funny how all these things have one quality in common. An escape route. 

Blackpaw, I really like that term, "dogs barking through fences" . You made me chuckle and brightened my day. Thanks.


 
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Mr Leon

Interesting post.

I hate bullies, I have spent my entire adult life standing up to them. My mom put me forward a grade. She was a great mom, but that was not a good move. Youngest and skinniest in the class. Of course I eventually caught up.

I hate it when someone takes over my post, and starts answering the questions others ask. It used to happen to me a lot on the bench rest forum.

Where is that hide button, and how does it work? Does that mean if someone I don’t want to respond to my posts …I can just hide them and no one can see their responses?

obviously I like to debate. I hate it when people make claims, and then back it up with nothing. Especially when they are seen as a person of authority. I very much dislike when people make a claim, and then arrange the facts to support it, and when you point out the holes in their theorem, they take offense…or don’t respond at all.

I absolutely hate more than anything, when I post a group and someone tells me that shooting groups, and posting Groups is BS. Somehow, for a while anyway, on this forum, if you posted your best group of the day, you were cherry picking. Why would I post my worst group?

I absolutely 100% hate it When someone gets on the hunting channel, and questions why Someone killed a varmint. Or questions why someone posts a video that wasn’t a perfect kill. Life is not perfect, neither is death.

it’s interesting, because the old yellow forum, was exactly what everyone is looking for. What I mean by that is, everyone encouraged everyone. And almost everyone was trying to shoot small groups. What else do you do with a gun?

I believe sometimes I become overzealous. But it’s never meant to be mean.

I don’t know if I even hit the target on this post, but I do like the post.

mike




 
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Oh,

I think every car should be equipped with a Thunderdome button. If someone flips you off, cuts you off, whatever, you just hit the Thunderdome button on your car. And both people who are in the altercation get to meet that night in Thunderdome. 

I’d be willing to bet they’d be a lot less people flipping people off. 

I usually give them the peace sign and a smile back. It usually doesn’t really work.

mike
 
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IMHO calling someone out because of safety or ethics issues is valid on AGN. Calling a poster out on accuracy claims, experience shooting, equipment choice. Isn't. If you disagree with a posters' advice to another forum member it's valid. Insults and ganging up on a poster are not. You could always PM the person asking for advice and give them yours. No conflict or hard feelings necessary. What we have in common is that we all like to shoot. There's room for everyone's point of view.

Like most mothers would say...
If you can't say something nice? 

P.S. Inspired by the "Where's Fischer" thread
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Insults because you disagree with another poster is childish. However, asking a question that may seem to put the validity of a poster's claim to accuracy, etc, in question, IMHO, is not calling someone out. It is asking for clarity. Of course, there are ways to ask a question politely and ways to ask a question that is accusatory.

In any case, I am not sure what the OP's definition of "calling someone out" actually is since there was no example given.

Yes, I read the "Where's Fischer" thread for reference.

JMHO
 
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It’s amazing, but it’s a perfect example of what my ask would be for a forum. This is the exact definition of a bully. Trying to change the course of a thread. I call them disruptors. I wish they would go away. If they don’t like a thread, they disrupt it. Very sad. Their comments are not meant to make a point. There’s no facts or figures, just a desire to control something they don’t like.

Usually they have limited knowledge, but claim to be experts.

WOW 

you flushed him right out of the brush Mr. Leon…Can you teach me how to use that button I want to try it out.

mike

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It’s amazing, but it’s a perfect example of what my ask would be for a forum. This is the exact definition of a bully. Trying to change the course of a thread. I call them disruptors. I wish they would go away. If they don’t like a thread, they disrupt it. Very sad. Their comments are not meant to make a point. There’s no facts or figures, just a desire to control something they don’t like.

Usually they have limited knowledge, but claim to be experts.

WOW 

you flushed him right out of the brush Mr. Leon…Can you teach me how to use that button I want to try it out.

mike

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Sorry Flintsack, but you lost me...

No offense meant to you or L. Leon. I simply don't understand what is driving this.

It is looking like calling someone out for "calling someone out". (shrug)
 
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Mike, I have to confess to not knowing how to use the hide button. If I post something I understand that I'm inviting everyone to comment if they would. So when someone misunderstands or I convey something the wrong way I rather apologize and move on. The camaraderie and knowledge gained, plus the entertaining posts are why I come to AGN. No animosity towards anyone here, don't have the time or energy for it.
 
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I appreciate you pointing that out. Because it probably would have come across the same way to others.

I find it both ironic, and serendipitous, that on a post searching for a solution that makes the members of Airgun Nation feel good… we have a perfect example of behavior that would represent the exact opposite of what the poster was trying to accomplish.

The picture that I took, I was just showing the dialogue, between the poster, and someone .The picture that I took, I was just showing the dialogue.

Mr. Leon was basically asking how should we treat each other…So that we can all have the best experience?

So I find it somewhat serendipitous that this gentleman gave us the perfect example of how not to act.

It’s actually kind of crazy when you think about it…

did that help?

mike
 
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