hello coming from center fire rifles and would like to know can I use Applied Ballistics App to shoot my .22 PCP ?
can I use Applied Ballistics computer ?
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The app, or the full computer program?
The computer prog has some cool features, e.g., hit probabilities statistics calculations you'll unlikely find elsewhere.
However, for serious trajectory calculations you should have an app or comp prog that offers the GA drag model.
Two apps that I use that are just excellent:
App — For field use:
Strelok — the small fee for the Pro version is worth it. Unlimited rifle—ammo—power setting combinations to save as custom rifles.
App — For graphs and other calculations that Strelok does not offer:
GPC Ballistics Applications
A full suite,
for Windows, Android, iOS, Linux
https://GPC.fotosoft.co.uk/Home.html
Free.
Comp program — for calculating almost everything under the airgun sun:
ChairGun for Windows
Free. Not supported anymore. Still runs good.
From the Hawke scopes website
There was a AGN member who wrote an extensive ballistic calculator — not sure what the current status is.
Matthias
The computer prog has some cool features, e.g., hit probabilities statistics calculations you'll unlikely find elsewhere.
However, for serious trajectory calculations you should have an app or comp prog that offers the GA drag model.
Two apps that I use that are just excellent:
App — For field use: Strelok — the small fee for the Pro version is worth it. Unlimited rifle—ammo—power setting combinations to save as custom rifles.
App — For graphs and other calculations that Strelok does not offer: GPC Ballistics Applications
A full suite,
for Windows, Android, iOS, Linux
https://GPC.fotosoft.co.uk/Home.html
Free.
Comp program — for calculating almost everything under the airgun sun:ChairGun for Windows
Free. Not supported anymore. Still runs good.
From the Hawke scopes website
There was a AGN member who wrote an extensive ballistic calculator — not sure what the current status is.Matthias
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Do you create a gun profile per pellet or slug, zero the gun at "x" yards and get your muzzle velocity and input that into the Kestrel with perhaps the G1 BC. The calculate your holdover at a further distance, say 50 to 100 yards past your zero range and compare the point of impact to the Kestrel, change the holdover and calculate MV?
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Hi I use the allied ballistics of ketrel same as using streloc pro , it is used for calculating ,variables you know inputs like wind ,baro temp , same applies if you using it with a handload in a 50bmg and getting dope for a 3000 yd shot , Now all slugs and or pellets have a rated bc as you need to input your ammo and speed , twist rate ect angle of shot , then you zero gun , me I zero my airguns 50 yards weather it is a edgun with slugs or a 30ft lb pellet gun , after this and it is zeroed , I will also shoot say 25 100 and 150 yards and true my gun , to program , and this can be done by a fps difference or a bc change , so after you adjust the gun to the program I call this tuning my dope , others may call it something else , heck some may not even true their stuff lol ,but I do it same way for airguns or real powder burners , I hunt alot and many times I just hold , but when I target I do dial alot and like to use equiptment
let me know if you understand what I said
but ys I create profiles and tune ones i use alot , so many tunes are ammo dependant for airguns , so I create many names and save to thumb drives I also save profiles like from thermal profiles , it is so much easier having it saved to sinstall in unit and be up and near spot on when it is loaded
LOU
let me know if you understand what I said
but ys I create profiles and tune ones i use alot , so many tunes are ammo dependant for airguns , so I create many names and save to thumb drives I also save profiles like from thermal profiles , it is so much easier having it saved to sinstall in unit and be up and near spot on when it is loaded
LOU
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Bryan is entering the airgun world so you will soon. I think it only has a g7/g1 bc so it won’t give you accurate solutions. Aerodynamic jumo might be also the opposite as it might be suited for spin estabilised bullets instead of drag estabilized pellets
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Except when the BC drag model does not follow your reality.
I will say this: I will take a G1 drag model that is tuned to my actual velocity vs distance data over a book value of a GA model. Real world BC varies from barrel to barrel, tune to tune.
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There certainly are discrepancies in actual value in BC for each projectile, that’s a given. However calculation/formula is the same so BC is BC as long as you get the correctly BC as the formula used is the same.
Applied ballistic and strelok both use centuries old formula to calculate trajectory and it is up to the user to input the data correctly and there is a lot of data to input. Garbage in, garbage out! If the calculation doesn’t match the actual trajectory then it’s simply user error or data input problem. GA just has slight custom curved added the all pellets’ BC data in strelok but doesn’t always work on all pellets especially the newer and higher BC pellets. only way to have truly accurate trajectory is to measure the BC at different speed in different conditions and not rely on old and fixed curves that is lowest common denominator applied to every pellet.
If you know how Applied Ballstics earn their living then You will know what those custom curved are about and why it doesn’t apply to everything or specific to each projectile. In case anyone doesn’t know the Applied ballistic app/calculator is free but their custom curves for individual projectiles they tested are NOT FREE!
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