CF Tank what and where?

I have bought 2- 6.8 liter new from Amazon 288.00 each and a used MSA 45 min (6.8 liter) $ 80.00 (2023) and the valve adapter. The MSA tank was made in 06, It was hydro tested before I bought it and then again 3/?/25 and still pasted. The firefighting tanks are better made, because of the heat they have to endure, and I would buy another MSA in good shape in a heartbeat.
 
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If you know that you are not going to start with a compressor and will be filling at a dive or paintball shop, I'd suggest the first thing you do is find the shop that you intend to fill at and find out what they need for you to do it. That will let you figure out what is best to buy - some can only fill to certain fittings, for example some dive shops can't directly fill a firehouse (CGA347) fitting and may not have an adapter. Such an adapter is available, but is an added cost if you were not planning on it. Two other important things to find out (in addition to whether or not they will fill and cost) is the fill level you will get from them (some only fill to 3500-3600 psi, as that is where a lot of SCUBA use stops) and how long it takes to fill (some want a drop off and fill for a later pickup, leading to two trips to the shop for every fill). In my case, the best shop for me could give a me a full fill for a fair price while I waited if the owner was there, but needed me to leave it if he was not there. Know what you are going to be dealing with before you make a final decision.

For the cheapest entry into tank ownership, you could look for a used SCBA tank that is still "good" in it's 15 year life and also still covered under a current hydro test. I did that when I started, and bought used 45 minute tank that was ten years old but had a fresh hydro, giving me five years of use at my local dive shop before I had to do anything different. In the end, the "cost per year" would be about the same as new, but since you are buying only 5 years (or maybe less) of life the total cost up front is lower. Your fill station costs (if separate) are good for much longer.

In that time of certified use, you may find that you are fully addicted to airgunning - and if so you have the option of replacing your out of date tank or going the compressor route. But the option is yours, and was made available with the lowest cost up front. After my five year usage at the dive shop was up on my used tank, I bought a compressor instead of a new tank (the good old Shoebox, back in the day) and kept filling the tank I had. Eventually I added more tanks to the mix as I am fully in this hobby (one was a DOT "Guppy" from Joe B and the other a 9L CE Acecare tank). I find filling from a tank to be the bast way to fill, so I am glad to have multiple tanks and the compressor to fill them.

Welcome to the world of tanks!
 
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My local dive shop is great.. $5 to top off my current AL SCUBA tank. and he does it while I wait. I just can't lift heavy stuff for a while due to torn rotator cuffs. I'll speak with them and see what they recommend and they may even have a used tank or even possible lease... Looks like $800 for a new CF tank $800/ 15year life = $53/ year... Plus the hydro test and visual inspections....
 
Why do you want a tank? I have an expired Scott I fill myself with my Yong Heng and I like the speed and lack of noise for a fill. But I recently got a GX CS2 and a typical gun fill takes 3 minutes and is quiet enough you could stand next to it and have a conversation. I think it is a totally viable option. I also think the "extra" air filter it comes with is OK for gun filling. So you get everything you need for under $300. I paid $250 delivered to my house from the GX website. The compressor takes up less space than my 45 minute, 6.8 liter, bottle and weighs less too.

If you want to do things the most expensive way possible then get a DOE stamped bottle for about twice the price of a CE bottle and waste time and money driving to a dive shop to get it filled. It is simple and it will work, it is just expensive. A cheaper way to have a bottle would be to get a bottle with the fill set from Aliexpress and a GX CS4 to fill it. The CS4 is self contained so you don't have to mess around with a large bucket of cooling water. Up front the bottle plus compressor will be more but it will be quickly paid back through no cost refills. Or you could get an expired firemans tank and a fill set like I have.
 
This deal is pretty hard to beat. DOT certified so you don't have any hassles in the future.

 
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My concerns with owning a compressor:
Something else to trip over and maintain
Moisture and oil in my rifle from dirty air.
I like going to dive shop a swapping hunting stories with the associates and owner..
Dive shop is only 12 minutes away.
$5 for a fill is cheap enough..
I shoot pest birds, so I do not consume a lot of air...
 
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This deal is pretty hard to beat. DOT certified so you don't have any hassles in the future.

That looks like a great deal.. I'll swing by dive shop and see if they have any issues with it and maybe purchase this one.. Thank you!!
 
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$5 for a fill is inexpensive and I can see why it would make the bottle option more attractive.

The GX CS2 does not use oil, it uses grease. So it's thicker and moves less. But I have seen a little discoloration of the absorbent filter it has, like the one that came with my Yong Heng, so some must be in the air when it gets to the filter. But I just change the filter before there is any evidence of oil or grease at the exit of the filter. I change it after every bottle fill with the Yong Heng but haven't decided on a schedule yet for the CS2. I have an extra filter on my Yong Heng for moisture. It has to run for close to half an hour to refill my 6.8 liter bottle. I vent every 5 minutes and that gets most of the oil but when it is humid, the absorbent filter is wet when I finish. So I want something backing it up.

I will be checking the absorbent filter that came with the CS2 but my guess is it will be enough to handle the moisture that accumulates in a 3 minute gun fill. If not, I will add a second or bigger filter. Periodic venting of the compressor will get a lot of the moisture as long as the lines run downhill towards the compressor.

Managing a compressor adds some complexity but the CS2 is quite simple. But you have to remember to start the compressor with the valve open and open the valve before stopping it. Not a lot of stuff to manage and remember but there are a few things. In terms of storage, I am mentioning it because it is so compact. Only weighs about 15 lbs and is smaller than a 6.8 liter bottle. Maybe half as big. But a bottle fills faster and quieter.
 
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Dive shop is only 12 minutes away.
$5 for a fill is cheap enough..
These are admittedly big factors. I have 2 shops in the area, but the one that can fill to 4500psi is 30+ minutes each way, plus leaving it overnight to cool & top off. The $12 fill wasn't terrible, but combined with +/- 2 hours of driving, it wasn't worth it. I don't get the opportunity to shoot much, so a compressor still may not have been the best use of my dollars, but it was best use of my time.
 
These are admittedly big factors. I have 2 shops in the area, but the one that can fill to 4500psi is 30+ minutes each way, plus leaving it overnight to cool & top off. The $12 fill wasn't terrible, but combined with +/- 2 hours of driving, it wasn't worth it. I don't get the opportunity to shoot much, so a compressor still may not have been the best use of my dollars, but it was best use of my time.
Why do you want a tank? I have an expired Scott I fill myself with my Yong Heng and I like the speed and lack of noise for a fill. But I recently got a GX CS2 and a typical gun fill takes 3 minutes and is quiet enough you could stand next to it and have a conversation. I think it is a totally viable option. I also think the "extra" air filter it comes with is OK for gun filling. So you get everything you need for under $300. I paid $250 delivered to my house from the GX website. The compressor takes up less space than my 45 minute, 6.8 liter, bottle and weighs less too.

If you want to do things the most expensive way possible then get a DOE stamped bottle for about twice the price of a CE bottle and waste time and money driving to a dive shop to get it filled. It is simple and it will work, it is just expensive. A cheaper way to have a bottle would be to get a bottle with the fill set from Aliexpress and a GX CS4 to fill it. The CS4 is self contained so you don't have to mess around with a large bucket of cooling water. Up front the bottle plus compressor will be more but it will be quickly paid back through no cost refills. Or you could get an expired firemans tank and a fill set like I have.
The Gx cs4 is expensive for what you get and even on Aliexpress shipping will kill ya.
 
My concerns with owning a compressor:
Something else to trip over and maintain
Moisture and oil in my rifle from dirty air.
I like going to dive shop a swapping hunting stories with the associates and owner..
Dive shop is only 12 minutes away.
$5 for a fill is cheap enough..
I shoot pest birds, so I do not consume a lot of air...
Dual filters on my Tuxing TXEDM042 and no water or oil anywhere to be found.

If you can't avoid tripping over a small compressor you need to get rid of a lot of junk.

TXEDM042 from AliExpress for < $400
2 9L CF tanks from Alibaba with valves < $500 (2 6.8L < $350 with valve)
Tariffs extra.
 
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Dual filters on my Tuxing TXEDM042 and no water or oil anywhere to be found.

If you can't avoid tripping over a small compressor you need to get rid of a lot of junk.

TXEDM042 from AliExpress for < $400
2 9L CF tanks from Alibaba with valves < $500 (2 6.8L < $350 with valve)
Tariffs extra.
For the money and you take care of them, you can't beat them.
 
Local dive shop compressor went out. They just bought a new one. This one is Alkin brand.
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the frame about 6' tall. Very large cast steel "flywheel" and large motor... Looks like Alkin is made in Turkey and office in NJ according to Google search.. They said the price to fix it was very expensive...
Went today to get a fill and my AL SUBA tank requires "hydro" .. 2-3 weeks.. The kid working dint know much about CF tanks so I'm Going back on Monday to speak with owner about CF tanks and possible options...