N/A Chinese lead JTS

Pellets are machine made, where the machine is “set it and forget it” for a few hours. The only advantages the Chinese have are the environmental laws and ironically the low pay allows them to do better quality control on what comes out of the machine. There is very little Union labor involved in transporting pellets from US factory to Walmart.

The US manufacturers should be investing heavily in optical and weight check quality control machinery, but they won’t unless their margins start shrinking from Chinese competitors. They may even decide to just relabel Chinese stuff in the future. I love America, but there is a lot of hubris when it comes to American companies. I wish more US companies were proud of their work like the Germans.

-Marty
Even the Germans run to china.. like how Diana seems more German snowpeak.. but true here you got to pay and deal with €pa, osha, liability, worker benefits, wages, corp tax , ect, ect,..

In china just pay off the ccp man his cut and go ...

You make a brick here you can sell for $100 but your cost to make it is 70$

Make it in china + ship it around the world and sell it for 80$ and your cost to make it is $30. So make it here and deal with all that mess and make 20$ or move to China and pocket $50 ?

Tough call... 🥴..lol
 
Did not realize these where china made, use up what I have and move on. Just got in a bunch of fx pellets hopefully they will be better then the last few Tins of jsb's I've gotten.
That's probably the most correct comment so far.
JSB quality went down. China and h&n up the stakes . So far I'm happy with H&N.
When I start buying Chinese I'm quitting this hobby.
 
Id have to think crosman being in newyork is union ..
I toured their plant a few years ago and shot with one of their employees at the Pyramyd air cup. He said no union. At that time, starting pay was 8-10 dollars an hour depending on job. They have changed hands since then and l think most of their manufacturing is outsouced now but I could be wrong about that. Don
 
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That's probably the most correct comment so far.
JSB quality went down. China and h&n up the stakes . So far I'm happy with H&N.
When I start buying Chinese I'm quitting this hobby.
I can see your point. Buying from anywhere but China is a nice goal but about 90% of everything avaliable today comes from China. I hate wally world but can't afford to go elsewhere due to cost. About 95% of everything they sell, except groceries, is made in China. If you drive a car, 90% of the parts come from overseas. They are "assembled in America" so they can say made in America. If I didn't buy anything not made in America, l would probably starve or be arrested for walking around naked. JMHO, Don
 
I toured their plant a few years ago and shot with one of their employees at the Pyramyd air cup. He said no union. At that time, starting pay was 8-10 dollars an hour depending on job. They have changed hands since then and l think most of their manufacturing is outsouced now but I could be wrong about that. Don
Looking at this stuff probably not..

Sounds miserable

https://www.indeed.com/cmp/Crosman-Corporation/reviews


I can see your point. Buying from anywhere but China is a nice goal but about 90% of everything avaliable today comes from China. I hate wally world but can't afford to go elsewhere due to cost. About 95% of everything they sell, except groceries, is made in China. If you drive a car, 90% of the parts come from overseas. They are "assembled in America" so they can say made in America. If I didn't buy anything not made in America, l would probably starve or be arrested for walking around naked. JMHO, Don

You'd been put a long time ago then ...😉
 
Crosman pellets I buy say made in Brazil on the back, pretty sure not made in America or at least they are not.
That's the crosman essential line that thy have to offer free in gun deals to even get rid of them. .. / a failed corona gap fill pellet.. they $uk hard...imho 🤧

Notice most places like pa don't post user reviews in them...lol
 
The CPHP that I get from Amazon in the blister pack tins are the ones from Brazil and in several of my guns they shoot as good or better then JSB except for a occasional flyer. I have about 22,000 of them in my cabinet.
Dont think so.. you could give pictures of that though. I'd like to see that..

Essential pellets. Brazil
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Cphp usa
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I bought a plenty boat loads of cphp from wherever and yet to see a pack made in Brazil. Only them essential line has been .
 
Dont think so.. you could give pictures of that though. I'd like to see that..

Essential pellets. Brazil
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I bought a plenty boat loads of cphp from wherever and yet to see a pack made in Brazil. Only them essential line has been .
Read the package, in your pictures. Says "made in USA with globally sourced material". Pellets and or tin could come from anywhere but USA. Don
 
My thoughts: open cases of pellets from somewhere, not USA. Open cases of metal tins, from somewhere, not USA. Insert proper amount of pellets in tins. Inserts tins in packages, that probably came from somewhere, not USA, seal packages on machine, probably came from somewhere, not USA. Pack proper amount of packages in boxes, might be made in USA, who knows. Now you have cases of pellets "MADE IN USA". Don
 
I see made in USA from ....

Not made in Brazil and nothing usa about it as the essential are.
I dont have any of the packaging left took all out of blister packs but almost all of the ones Ive bought from Amazon said Made in Brazil or Brazil on the cardboard no matter if you seen it or not, I have no reason to say otherwise I actually could care less.
 
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