Chinese tank any good?

[Brian10956]

i saw this tank set up on eBay and was wondering if anyone has ever tried these. It’s less than half the price of what you see in the stores. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/9L-300bar-4500psi-Carbon-fiber-air-tank-red-fauge-valve-filling-station/232536475677?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

 

[2D1C]

I'm pretty sure you'll get some feed back on these here. I think guys that have compressors have bought them. I don't know if they have the proper certs to be filled in the US. I will be curious to see the feedback s well

 

[gadballs9]

Checked the ad. If that outfit has such a glowing resume why don't they submit these for DOT certification? At the risk of sounding like a broken record: High-pressure, 4500psi air is NO place to cut corners. It could be made to same standards as U.S.-built tanks but i SERIOUSLY doubt it. Its your money.

 

[Brian10956]

I was just looking to see if anyone knew about it. I would never buy, use or sell a tank I was unsure of. I agree if it was as good as they claim why not get US certified. 

 

[John "spysir" Blount]

Some may well be an excellent investment , for some.

They WILL DOT certify if you meet the minimum order number.
If you look you should be able to find one of those Chinese ( advertized) tanks that IS EU or UK certified. Likely every bit as safe as US standards. You would need to fill it yourself, and then do you dump it after a few years or??????
Now those fill lines, yikes.

I went used from a dealer and got the 45 minute Scott with fill unit and 11 years left ( and current hydro) for exactly $300.00




John

 

[Brian10956]

I already have a 90cc small backpack tank and I have a 72cf tank. I’m looking for another large capacity tank around 100 cf in case I go on a trip in an area where Air fills might not be available. What would me the metric equivalent of both 72 and 100 cubic feet. 

 

[Centercut]

These tanks are CE rated to the European standard. They’re not DOT, so you can’t get them filled in the USA. However, that doesn’t mean they are not safe, or not made up to modern standards. Does anyone mention that the Omega tanks they sell at AoA are Korean made? Things that make you go hmmm... I personally like the SCBA tanks like Scott, Carlton, Interspiro, and Drager that are made in the USA. 

 

[gadballs9]

Omega's are made by Inocom in S.Korea. This outfit makes the SCBA tanks for practically all the fire dept.'s there. They also make fuel cells for both the auto and tech. industry. They are fully DOT certified. BTW, of the firms you listed only Carleton actual makes cylinders. The others make scba breathing equipment. The main U.S. cylinder makers are Luxfer, SCI/Worthington and Cobham/Carleton. Scott uses Luxfer as does Draeger. Not sure which tank Interspiro uses but its one of three.

 

[Centercut]

Didn’t mean to offend. And yes, Luxfer and SCI make most of the tanks for other companies. My point was CE specs are pretty much equivalent to the DOT specs. And that the Chinese tanks are made and tested to similar specs. Just sayin’

 

[shutik]

I believe there are tanks from the same manufacturer that are DOT certified, but they are move expansive.

If you contact ebay seller, them most likely will provide price for DOT certified tanks.

Amazon has both versions https://www.amazon.com/IORMAN-Original-Aluminum-Composite-Certification/dp/B01L6TM6UA/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1511149126&sr=8-9&keywords=pcp+carbon+fiber+tank

 

[gadballs9]

"Centercut"Didn’t mean to offend. And yes, Luxfer and SCI make most of the tanks for other companies. My point was CE specs are pretty much equivalent to the DOT specs. And that the Chinese tanks are made and tested to similar specs. Just sayin’

No prob. We'r all good. Big problem with non-DOT tanks is that no one will hydro test one.

 

[gadballs9]

"shutik"I believe there are tanks from the same manufacturer that are DOT certified, but they are move expansive.

If you contact ebay seller, them most likely will provide price for DOT certified tanks.

Amazon has both versions https://www.amazon.com/IORMAN-Original-Aluminum-Composite-Certification/dp/B01L6TM6UA/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1511149126&sr=8-9&keywords=pcp+carbon+fiber+tank

Airhog sells a 88cu/ft Carleton/Cobham(US-made) for 500bux. Great products.

 

[Brian10956]

I did see on Amazon they have the 9L (95cf) tank for 399 with a CE approval it is 100 more for dot approval. Since I have my own compressor and my other tanks are dot approved I may just put that 100 towards a gauge and fill whip can someone recommend one that will fit the valve on the one Amazon has in gadballs9 response I may just use the tank with my Ninja tethering regulator. Thanks for help I love spending my money before I have it.

 

[Centercut]

Have you considered one of the used SCBA tanks like this one?

http://r.ebay.com/kXAGr1

Or a new SCBA tank like this one, if you don't want used?

http://r.ebay.com/cporrP

Both of these seem like good deals, and the SCBA fill rig is under $50.

 

[Brian10956]

Can someone let me know in C.F. what it the size of the SCBA tanks other than the minute rating.

 

[Centercut]

The 45 minute tanks are 65 SCF, the 60 minute tanks are 87 SCF. Interspiro used to make some that were 45+ minutes, and I think they were 75 to 77 SCF. 

 

[gadballs9]

"Brian10956"Can someone let me know in C.F. what it the size of the SCBA tanks other than the minute rating.

At the risk of confusion: You'll see tanks advertised at 75, 98-100cu/ft. These are the EXACT same as the 65 & 88cu/ft. When you approach 3000psi when filling the IdealGasLaw is no longer so "ideal". Those so called "98-100cu/ft" tanks can only hold 88cu/ft of air at 4,350psi. JoeB. has always rated his this way as opposed to AoA who started saying that their tanks were 75 &100cu/ft.(65&88cu/ft of air at 4,350psi). In fire dept. terms a 30min is 45cu/ft, a 45min is 65cu/ft and a 60min is 88cu/ft.