Choosing the “right” airgun

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ChickenDumpling said:
A classic stands generations IMHO ... some may not still be in production, but the demand is still there and folks want to find and use them. Maybe its too engrained, but I always like the traditional hunting rifle with wood ... Mauser like. But the LEGO platforms with the plug and play approach, huge impact.
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Yeah I like the real wood too, I just bought, awaiting delayed delivery due to SoCal fires, a couple classic British rifles.
A.H. Hartley Stalker Tiger Ten (Based on BSA Super 10 with a custom grade 2 walnut stock)
Falcon Hawk FH-19HT with a gorgeous stock.

PB rifle I've always been partial to Springfield 30.06 and my all time favorite .300 Savage Model 99.
But I don't hunt anymore so I don't have any PB.
 
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Struckat said:
No none of mine check all those boxes. Also the combined price of them all barely exceeds some of the ones you mentioned that you have tried.

The scale of getting what you pay for is different for everyone so I will leave that to the other thread.

I am a walking contradiction. My collection tries to avoid redundancy while being redundant.
I seem to set things up for specific tasks, yet I enjoy being able to change most of them into something else.

As time goes on, I fool around changing the existing guns less every time I add another to the mix.

I recently picked up a Talon P in .22
I read the pros and cons of the design for years. Now that I have one, bought used with all the adds I would have bought. So disqualify me for this.

It takes my no skill butt a while to learn to shoot a new gun. Lighter and smaller take longer.
I am a casual airgunner that likes a little tinkering.

So I will use the TP 22, even though there is a lot of testing that needs to be done.
So far I have 4 tunes.
Wadcutters for target and chippers, 17ish fpe.
Mid weights, 14-16 grain, mid 20’s fpe.
18 grain low 30’s fpe
Power tune, 21ish grain, 38-39 fpe.


#1) accuracy-So far so good, much more testing to do.
#2) tuneability-Yes
#3) smooth shot cycle: crisp, quiet SNAP!-Tuning tuning tuning
#4) reliability - durability, - Yes
#5) serviceability and parts availability - Yes
#6) warranty - Yes but I buy used so…
#7) adaptability to different calibers- Yes, this will come in time as this one becomes more purpose driven.
#8) A shot count that agrees with intended purpose- Yes, 20@ 38fpe and 120@ 17fpe

Second in line comes very subjective FORM issues:

#1) looks - does it have an amazing or unique stock - the wow factor-Yes Mad Dog stock
#2) feel - weight to size - overall balance at the shoulder. - Yes Mad Dog stock
#3) ergonomically designed for adaptability to various shooters and or various shooting disciplines - comfort in use. - NO, added hook so yes kind of
#4) easily accepts various sighting option. - Yes

So today, the Talon P comes pretty close for me.

Buuuuut, if I could only keep one, it would still be my HW95!

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Now that's scary! 😳

For the second time in a week I come across a post from a fellow AGN member who has made a comment that is almost exactly what I would have written!

No Talon here (yet) but I came very close to getting one a couple of weeks ago.

Cheers!
 
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Kraford and Lypt 0.177:
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SaberTactical 0.30:
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#1) accuracy - both have been batch tested then tuned to the specific diabolo for accuracy and meet my standards.

#2) tuneability - The FX Impact is known for its tunability.

#3) smooth shot cycle: crisp, quiet SNAP! - When correctly tuned and trigger correctly adjusted, the M3 is among the best that i have actually shot with the Anschutz ONE being the best.

#4) reliability - durability - With a top rail that protects the shroud the M3 is very durable. If you know how to correctly maintain the M3 it is very, very reliable.

#5) serviceability and parts availability - Best in the industry.

#6) warranty - both are past warranty and I never had to use it.

#7) adaptability to different calibers - The M3 is adaptable to various calibers but doing so screws up the regulators which are adjustable and NOT variable. A beveled washer regulator is by design to be adjusted and left. Sliding an M3 barrel in and out to routinely change calibers is no good for the barrel. The only time you need to pull a barrel is when changing the breech o-ring. To clean the liner you can use a cleaning cable inserted from the muzzle or remove the pellet probe and use a rod inserted from the breech.

#8) A shot count that agrees with intended purpose - when tuned correctly, my shot count and air consumption met intended purposes.

#1) looks - does it have an amazing or unique stock - the wow factor - N/A, I don't care at all for the Impact's looks. Mine remind me of my M-16 service rifle which was total crap.

#2) feel - weight to size - overall balance at the shoulder. - both set up for shooting off a bipod and shoulder, no rear rest and both work well for me.

#3) ergonomically designed for adaptability to various shooters and or various shooting disciplines - comfort in use. - can be customized with aftermarket components to shoot from all 4 positions.

#4) easily accepts various sighting option. - with aftermarket picatinny top rail I have used various iron sights and optics.
 
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I'm mostly into moderate power (30ish FPE) .22 caliber PCPs and have a good selection from popular brands (Air Arms, Daystate, FX, Weihrauch and Benjamin)

For me, my .22/500 mm FX Crown MK2 ticks off all the boxes for my applications - plinking, pesting, small game hunting and casual target shooting.

IMHO, It only misses on "#4) easily accepts various sighting option" of your lists in that doesn't come with a front sight so iron sights or aperture peep sights are not an option. Not really an issue as I always put scopes on my PCPs.

I have other more specialized airguns for specific disciplines like 10 meter target shooting and benchrest shooting but none are as versatile and capable as the Crown.

Cheers!
 
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Troy Bakel said:
Kraford and Lypt 0.177:
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SaberTactical 0.30:
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#1) accuracy - both have been batch tested then tuned to the specific diabolo for accuracy and meet my standards.

#2) tuneability - The FX Impact is known for its tunability.

#3) smooth shot cycle: crisp, quiet SNAP! - When correctly tuned and trigger correctly adjusted, the M3 is among the best that i have actually shot with the Anschutz ONE being the best.

#4) reliability - durability - With a top rail that protects the shroud the M3 is very durable. If you know how to correctly maintain the M3 it is very, very reliable.

#5) serviceability and parts availability - Best in the industry.

#6) warranty - both are past warranty and I never had to use it.

#7) adaptability to different calibers - The M3 is adaptable to various calibers but doing so screws up the regulators which are adjustable and NOT variable. A beveled washer regulator is by design to be adjusted and left. Sliding an M3 barrel in and out to routinely change calibers is no good for the barrel. The only time you need to pull a barrel is when changing the breech o-ring. To clean the liner you can use a cleaning cable inserted from the muzzle or remove the pellet probe and use a rod inserted from the breech.

#8) A shot count that agrees with intended purpose - when tuned correctly, my shot count and air consumption met intended purposes.

#1) looks - does it have an amazing or unique stock - the wow factor - N/A, I don't care at all for the Impact's looks. Mine remind me of my M-16 service rifle which was total crap.

#2) feel - weight to size - overall balance at the shoulder. - both set up for shooting off a bipod and shoulder, no rear rest and both work well for me.

#3) ergonomically designed for adaptability to various shooters and or various shooting disciplines - comfort in use. - can be customized with aftermarket components to shoot from all 4 positions.

#4) easily accepts various sighting option. - with aftermarket picatinny top rail I have used various iron sights and optics.
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@Troy Bakel - best post/answer yet!
 
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