Compressor vs Carbon Tank

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Edwardstex said:
What type of compressor do you have? Do you like it? What size bottle? How long approximately does it take to fill a bottle?
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I have a Yong Heng compressor. It is a good buy for the price but for you 'd probably suggest a portable compressor that will run off 12 volt as well as AC. That and a small CF bottle would probably be ideal. I have a large CF tank - 9L/88cuft and topping off from 200 to 300 bar takes about 15 minutes. 0 to 300 bar takes over an hour and a half in 15 minute runs.
 
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Lots of good replies.... I'm kinda in the same scenario as my 45min. Scott scba tank reaches its' 15yr life span Nov. '23 and I'm weighing options also. I will say that of the many posts I've read recently, there seems to be a fair amount of frustration with fellows owning (and returning/repairing) these small compressors and/or keeping them doing what they're meant to do without some additional filtration and cooling add-ons.
I for one, will likely look for another scba tank, either used with years of life left or new. My style of shooting sounds very similar to the OP' descriptive use and with having a tank and a 5 minute away fire equipment sales and repair location for hydro test/filling pure DRY breathable air at a reasonable price.... I can get a LOT of fills and shooting for what it would cost to own a compressor without any "possible" frustrations of owning that compressor, 'cause the older I get (70) the less I care to deal with frustration. ;)
 
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RWSx3 said:
Lots of good replies.... I'm kinda in the same scenario as my 45min. Scott scba tank reaches its' 15yr life span Nov. '23 and I'm weighing options also. I will say that of the many posts I've read recently, there seems to be a fair amount of frustration with fellows owning (and returning/repairing) these small compressors and/or keeping them doing what they're meant to do without some additional filtration and cooling add-ons.
I for one, will likely look for another scba tank, either used with years of life left or new. My style of shooting sounds very similar to the OP' descriptive use and with having a tank and a 5 minute away fire equipment sales and repair location for hydro test/filling pure DRY breathable air at a reasonable price.... I can get a LOT of fills and shooting for what it would cost to own a compressor without any "possible" frustrations of owning that compressor, 'cause the older I get (70) the less I care to deal with frustration. ;)
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They're also discussing if the CF tanks 15 year life span should be raised to 30 years which would allow us to get these expired CF tanks hydrotested again.
 
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The progression…

I just want to get into air guns “cheap”. Buy a Gamo springer.

Man, those pcp’s look cool. Maybe just a “cheap” pcp.

Not satisfied with cheap pcp, upgrade.

I wish I bought this Brocock first???

Maybe I need another…….and…….and……

Air….

I will go to the scuba or paintball shop to fill my new carbon fiber air tank. Once…

Air Omega Air charger showed up at my door….

Another 75cu/ft tank showed up from AOA…

I seem to always run low on air when we go on the road. (Florida Iguana’s)

GX-E-LS2 was delivered to my door, again AOA just seems to know what I need.

Good thing I have Makita tools…..

Just sit in and enjoy the ride. And bring as many with you as you can!!!

Just an old man having fun.
carry on......
 
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Mr.Brocock said:
The progression…

I just want to get into air guns “cheap”. Buy a Gamo springer.

Man, those pcp’s look cool. Maybe just a “cheap” pcp.

Not satisfied with cheap pcp, upgrade.

I wish I bought this Brocock first???

Maybe I need another…….and…….and……

Air….

I will go to the scuba or paintball shop to fill my new carbon fiber air tank. Once…

Air Omega Air charger showed up at my door….

Another 75cu/ft tank showed up from AOA…

I seem to always run low on air when we go on the road. (Florida Iguana’s)

GX-E-LS2 was delivered to my door, again AOA just seems to know what I need.

Good thing I have Makita tools…..

Just sit in and enjoy the ride. And bring as many with you as you can!!!

Just an old man having fun.
carry on......
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Boy can I relate.
 
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MikeAllen said:
I have a Yong Heng compressor. It is a good buy for the price but for you 'd probably suggest a portable compressor that will run off 12 volt as well as AC. That and a small CF bottle would probably be ideal. I have a large CF tank - 9L/88cuft and topping off from 200 to 300 bar takes about 15 minutes. 0 to 300 bar takes over an hour and a half in 15 minute runs.
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Thank you for the info on the Yong Heng compressor, 9L CF tank and the fill times. I know I want a little smaller than the 9L. The only one I have seen was a little larger than I had hoped.
BurntDog said:
Yes, these budget compressors are not made for heavy use like the ones scuba, fire stations or retail pcp fill station shops use. It says in my manual not to use to fill scuba tanks larger then .5L/500cc It can obviously handle the pressures but it would take a hour or so to fill my 45 cu.ft from completely empty and running these small compressors longer then a half hour is not advised. So, I want my compressor to last as long as possible which is why I run it for 8 or so minutes and with pump off but fan running I let it cool down. I also added a DIY moisture filter (using 3A Molecular Sieve Desiccant Beads and one cotton type element) to my compressors "air Intake" along with the normal (I choose to use three instead of one big one) inline filters to avoid moisture prolonging the life of both compressor and gun. My compressor's temp is always between 32-36 degrees Celsius manual states 80 degrees Celsius max temp. I run my AC unit when filling to keep room temp around 72.

When looking into what size tank to buy this may help, https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/Tanks/FillCalc.html
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Thanks for the details on the moisture filters. I have always used two types of filters on my paint compressors but I have never own this type of compressor. I will make sure I have that option available on the one I decide to buy.
 
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MikeAllen said:
I have a Yong Heng compressor. It is a good buy for the price but for you 'd probably suggest a portable compressor that will run off 12 volt as well as AC. That and a small CF bottle would probably be ideal. I have a large CF tank - 9L/88cuft and topping off from 200 to 300 bar takes about 15 minutes. 0 to 300 bar takes over an hour and a half in 15 minute runs.
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Mike I got my CF bottles confused. I just went back over and looked at the 9L bottle and am I correct it only weighs about 6lbs. If so, I think that will work. I just need to do more research on the CF bottle weights so I understand them better. Thank you for the info!
 
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Edwardstex said:
Mike I got my CF bottles confused. I just went back over and looked at the 9L bottle and am I correct it only weighs about 6lbs. If so, I think that will work. I just need to do more research on the CF bottle weights so I understand them better. Thank you for the info!
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9L is a pretty big tank. It is also classified S 88 cubic foot and weighs a lot more than 6 pounds. Might want to investigate “buddy bottles.”
 
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I use an expired Scott 45 minute scba tank with my YH compressor. If you get comfortable with an expired tank the price difference between it and a new one will just about pay for the YH. According to the google search I just did, a 45 minute tanks weighs less than 15 lbs and holds 66 cubic feet of air. You would need to add a pound or two for the fill set but I think it is very easily portable. But sometimes you can find 30 minute tanks that would be smaller and if you go new there are other options. For instance the Omega 18 cubic foot tank is supposed to weigh less than 6 lbs. A used SCBA tank with a year or two left would allow you to postpone the compressor purchase but it costs more than an expired one, of course. Lots of options.
 
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