Considering a compressor.....

About the only compressor that really has my interest is the Shoebox F10 but I'm wondering if I've got all the data or if I'm looking at it wrong. I have a small DeWalt pancake compressor already. I only use SCUBA tanks so wouldn't ever go over 3000psi. 

What I kinda have in mind is looping the 50ft of low pressure compressor hose over the trusses in the garage and then attaching it to the Shoebox. It seems that in that manner I could use gravity and the stopcock on the pancake to blow out most of the condensed water. That plan, coupled with living in Arizona, and making a point to only run the compressor at times when the humidity is low (<15%) would keep me from needing additional moisture removal systems....I think?

A quick perusal of this topics section makes it appear that most of us are buying Chinese compressors like the Yong Heng, etc. Help me understand why the Chinese compressor option would be better than a Shoebox.

For Shoebox cons I've got: slow, need of first stage compressor? (that I've already got), price

For Shoebox pros I've got: easy service/rebuild, parts availability, support, track record, no water cooling source in vicinty of pump increasing humidity level in the air the compressor intake

For Yong Heng/Tuxing cons I've got: track record, parts availability, support, user servicability, water right there in either buckets or a sink increasing water in the air, no need for an extra compressor

For Yong Heng/Tuxing pros I've got: fast, cheap

So again, help me understand why the Chinese compressor option would be better than a Shoebox. I feel like I'm missing something.
 
I think you have listed out all the pros and cons and is ready to make your own decision.

For me Yong Heng is the only choice because there is no cons, just the pros 

- my shop compressor is not powerful enough to drive the shoebox

- I have tap and drain next to where I use the compressor

- I have direct contact to the Yong Heng official shop in China so support is instant and genuine parts are readily available.

Had the Normad compressor came out earlier I would have got the Normad instead because the set up is a lot simpler and lighter. I fill my rifle directly so there is no need to use the gold filter but just the small filter that came with Yong Heng. To remove the moisture, it will be sufficient to use a dry cotton for every fill. The cotton can be reused for several times by leaving them to dry out by themselves when not in use.
 
I just received my F10, very substantial, well made. I am leasing a 230 cf tank of nitrogen and feeding that into the shoebox (125 psi) and filling my rifle directly. I think this will be the best setup for me and I should not have any moisture issues. I set the regulator on the shoebox to 3000 and have filled the gun only once, yesterday. Took 4 minutes and 27 seconds to shutoff. (from 1000 psi to 3000, 270 cu inch tank on gun) Hard to figure how many fills I should get but I am betting over 150 and could be a lot higher, but time will tell.

dan
 
I’ve had the F10 a few months, and am very glad I made this choice...it’s fast enough for me, it fills my great white from 3600-4500 In less than 90 min...i was sold on it with the easy rebuilds, US made, and all of the positive comments I read about it...

I’d do it again...I know it’s more money than the Chinese units, but that’s ok.

Mike
 
I use the altros booster, same idea tho.

Dan has the DRY "air" down! 

And foe new folks ( at least with an altor booster) pretty much any shop compressor will work just fine.



I'm sure some are simply "saving money" going with the low budget compressors. Does not seem money well spent to me (couldnt work on it myself so..) .

The other group that needs a compressor over a booster wants speed. Faster fills that is.

The shoebox will be a little slower and last forever with good parts supply/support.



John


 
I'm considering going the same route as Dan / nitrogen to a Shoebox. Using the same setup (230cuft nitrogen tank). If I'm filling a AV 90cu in tank (16.2cuft @ 4500psi), are the number of fill I can expect s straight conversion?

230cuft nitrogen (@2000 psi) ÷ 16.2cuft (@4500psi) = roughly 14 fills (less some wasted air)

That is filling the AV from empty. Double that -28 fills - from 3400 to 4500 psi? Close? The math would give me a headache. Lol