Convicted Felon Airgunner
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I was a Correctional Officer for over 11 years…here in Idaho the Attorney General views air guns the same as a firearm as it relates to felons…the law is written anything that expels a projectile - which can be a straw & spitball (absolutely ridiculous!) is a prohibited item for a felon. I would certainly look into having your Rights reinstated - typically if your crime was non violent or non sexual there’s a good chance you can have them reinstated by showing your current productivity status. It’s worth a try! Legally, even a felon can possess a firearm for the purposes of self defense in a life or death situation…the crappy, gray area of that is how are you supposed to magically come into possession of a portable life saving device the instant you NEED it? Get your Rights reinstated. Call your Attorney Generals office and ask specifically what the laws are in PA regarding air gun possession/use in your State. Good luck!!! 
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Is there a specific reason you don’t what to use the range as a guest? Chances are in the bi-laws for the club, as the club probably manly supports firearms it is stated that felons can not be club members because they do not want legal issues. I don’t know how it is everywhere but in Wisconsin it seems like there is always some group of people trying to get the ranges closed, and being a “gun” club I would think having Felons as members would be unneeded ammunition for the anti gun movement. If you’re able to shoot as a guest you should really be happy that you even have that opportunity. I personally have no beef with anyone who has some kind of a record, (unless you’re a rapist or a Pedifile) then you should be hung and skinned alive. But the truth hurts and it’s your mistake, so be happy with what you can have.
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Dominick, you have been very forthright here and you are putting your personal info out there, so can I ask you to be more specific about what you did?
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In Ohio, it's just a simply form and $50 application fee to get your firearms rights restored. Time to move next door brother! 
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That's completely ridiculous. A huge portion of felons are felons for... Forgery... Insider trader... Tax evasion... Embezzlement... Drug possession.
Sometimes they were in a bad car wreck that someone died.
Sometimes they wrote bad checks when they were young trying to feed their family..
Or they stole from Walmart in excess of $1000. Or maybe they were young and dumb and caused damage to someone's property in excess of $1000
Now adays you can be charged of any crime you haven't even committed yet. They call it "conspiracy". So you talked about or "planned" on breaking a law (such as possessing drugs.. or commiting any of the white collar crimes listed above), but you never actually committed the crime but we're convicted with a felony charge that is often treated more harshly than if you had actually commit the crime.
Not all "felons" are burglars, robbers, pedophiles, and murderers that are dangerous. I'm willing to bet the actual dangerous felons make up a very small portion of the population that are convicts. It takes a whole lot less than you think to be charged with a felony. Which I believe has been done over the last 50 year on purpose to slowly disarm people "legally" (even though the GCA is unconstitutional... But this isn't the place for that conversation)
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You are right my friend, BUT a whole lot of Felons HAVE been changed with violent felonies, so let’s put this all into perspective when talking here
I don’t know Dominick and he SEEMS like a nice guy who deserves a second chance but he said that he was convicted of some type of felony with firearms plus racketeering charges so that isn’t a trivial matter.
Plus, he might have pled out to that charge, which means that he was arrested and charged with a much more serious crime than he pled to
Again I don’t know Dominick, I respect his service to our country, and it SEEMS as though he got into trouble when he was a young man. I do believe in redemption and I don’t judge anyone
Maybe he will chime in with more information, if he wants to, but there can be allot to the story
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Prohibited weapon and felony crime, don't know what more you're after, he's not going to come on here and post up details nor should he have to.
Was totally unaware of background checks at gun ranges, and maybe that's due to them being done without my knowledge, but I can understand why range staff would want to know.
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In Ohio, it's just a simply form and $50 application fee to get your firearms rights restored. Time to move next door brother!
Moving states doesn't matter. You need to get rights restored in the state you were convicted in. In many states this is functionally impossible.
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First off, maybe let Dominick respond to my post?? Do you know him? If not, don't answer for him...OK?
Besides some sort of weapons charge, which Dominick can clarify (if he wants to) he seems to have pled out to Federal Racketeering Charges...which can mean many things, such as for example, extortion while armed with a firearm. Just trying to get a handle on what he did.....I wouldn't ask ANYONE to put his business on the web but then again, Dominick is the one who started this thread.
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Regardless.. it's a topic of discussion. A LOT of people have felony charges on their records. And I'm willing the bet the majority of them are good people who are part of society. The OP doesn't need to be here for a discussion to continue
This. You have to have it expunged/pardoned in the state where convicted.
I do believe every state has a way to do it. What degree of success people having doing it depends on the state, the charges, and how deep your pockets are.
I believe (in the least) people who are not habitual offenders should have a second chance.
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I do agree with a lot of what you said but keep in mind that there are an awful lot of people out there who shouldn’t be allowed to own/carry a gun
The fact that our broken justice system in liberal states releases gangbangers and other miscreants without bail is a whole different conversation
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Maybe. But violating 2A based on a single crime, in many ways, is just singling out those who got caught. And as has been stated, many of the qualifying crimes are crimes of youth, wrong circumstance, financial complications or other kinds of crimes you might think wouldn't cost you a constitutionally-guaranteed right.
I have a misdemeanor from a long time ago. I happened to live in the only state in the Union that based on max sentence length -- from what I have gathered -- one of our favorite agencies considers to be a felony for purposes of passing a background check. There is zero chance of getting it pardoned in the state I gladly left for plenty of other reasons.
Just so you know it's not just violent felons and real maniacs getting screwed in a lot of circumstances.
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Yes, it's not a firearm. Actually, in pretty much all states, non cartridge loading blackpowder firearms are legal to own for felons as they are not legally guns, which includes percussion cap revolvers and pistols and all muzzle loaders. Before any anti gun Karen starts getting worried about criminals with black powder firearms, all muzzle loaders take at least 30 seconds to load (and thats if your extremely trained), while percussion cap revolvers only have (on average, as some have less or more shots) 6 shots before having to be reloaded… one bore at a time, which takes a minute or so. The only felons carrying around blackpowder firearms are ones who have truly been reformed as they will only be using them for hunting and self defense, because trying to them in a crime is extremely difficult, and modern guns are extremely wasy to obtain illegaly, which is why you don't see gangers running around with percussion cap revolvers or muskets, because they don't care about the law and will obtain a gun illegally. Now I won't deal in absolutes, sure, there have been felons who have used blackpowder firearms for crimes, and I'm sure it will happen more, but so far, it's been so rare that it's a non issue.
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Yes, it's not a firearm. Actually, in pretty much all states, non cartridge loading blackpowder firearms are legal to own for felons as they are not legally guns, which includes percussion cap revolvers and pistols and all muzzle loaders. Before any anti gun Karen starts getting worried about criminals with black powder firearms, all muzzle loaders take at least 30 seconds to load (and thats if your extremely trained), while percussion cap revolvers only have (on average, as some have less or more shots) 6 shots before having to be reloaded… one bore at a time, which takes a minute or so. The only felons carrying around blackpowder firearms are ones who have truly been reformed as they will only be using them for hunting and self defense, because trying to them in a crime is extremely difficult, and modern guns are extremely wasy to obtain illegaly, which is why you don't see gangers running around with percussion cap revolvers or muskets, because they don't care about the law and will obtain a gun illegally. Now I won't deal in absolutes, sure, there have been felons who have used blackpowder firearms for crimes, and I'm sure it will happen more, but so far, it's been so rare that it's a non issue.
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I gave your post a "like" because I agree with a lot of what you said BUT look for a moment at your first sentence.
Maybe your 2A rights SHOULD BE erased for a single crime. And Hell Yes, it is "singling out who got caught!"
Society doesn't need violent felons carrying a firearm.
Do you want people who have committed a violent felony permitted to carry a gun?? I sure don't. You do that and you forfeited your rights sorry....you belong in Prison.
The poster in question, Dominick, pled guilty to felony possession of a firearm along with federal racketeering charges...that is a serious thing. Unless he clears it up otherwise, racketeering is a serious charge....the RICO Act is how the Alphabet org brought down the Mafia in the USA. It isn't a DWI and he was carrying a gun without a permit.
Maybe he shouldn't carry a firearm.
And the blind support that he got here for being a Marine is nauseating...Lee Harvey Oswald was a Marine as well. So was the guy who murdered Chris Kyle
Let's thank him for his service as well while we're at it and take them both to the airgun range
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Well, that makes 2A a second class right compared to others like freedom of speech. Even that gets violated routinely when it shouldn't be.
I do agree if someone commits a violent crime of circumstances that should be well-defined, supervision is necessary including not handling weapons. I'm not sure what the long term solution would be for someone who fully reforms his or herself in that circumstance.
I'm not a policy maker, but I'm a reasonable and non-violent person myself who believes it's an important discussion to have if this country ever starts thinking about restoring some of our lost or selective freedoms. I think we've seen the slippery slope tilt a little far against mostly law abiding people, while at the same time real criminals - and by that I mean people who are dangerous to others - are often ignored.
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