Costly mistake in buying a pcp rifle
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Quite some time ago, I asked AoA about why they don't sell AEA products. They said the guns didn't meet their product standards. They actually malfunctioned during their testing. Meanwhile, AEA wouldn't respond to their parts requests in a timely manner.
Rumor has it that TPS has a substantial supply of AEA parts.
UA is currently burdened with an excess demand for parts & service due to the demise of FX USA.
The "shuffle" mentioned earlier makes sense
Rumor has it that TPS has a substantial supply of AEA parts.
UA is currently burdened with an excess demand for parts & service due to the demise of FX USA.
The "shuffle" mentioned earlier makes sense
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I only just saw this website last year and I know there have been AEA owners over the last 4 years. Most people don't know this website exists, this website is based out of another country. Majority of owners that have bought these air guns have bought them through fox air power, the pellet shop, utah airguns. Even at my local airgun store, AirgunOne Inc. We had a really bad experience with the distributor in Davie Florida. Idk about the other stores experiences but my local one had a really poopty 2 year experience with them. They would send guns without gauge caps, the baffle stack orientation was backwards, one mag instead of two, sometimes no mags at all, or they came with broken poppet valves and he was stuck with fixing them for who ever bought them. For the longest, they really didn't have any warranty. But Binatac and Zack would do what they could to make sure that he could help us fix the gun. I know the pellet shop guarantees the AEA guns you buy from them up to a year. I couldn't tell you about the rest of them though.
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@PennyPincher - I hope you get your issues resolved! Welcome to the PCP rabbit hole. I suggest getting a list of o rings and stocking up. Unfortunately AEA rifles are not as refined as others. @Airgun-Revisions has some really nice rifles. The Marauder is a great starting point and are easy to fill and work on.
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Even guns like hw that before you could get nice parts selection it's not that way today . What was easy to get is a lot of no longer available , out of stock, discounted... Even e.u sources the wells run dry on a lot of things
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Unfortunately you really do get what you pay for. Stick to established brands. They have time and sweat equity into developing their brand. They are not perfect but will do what they can to keep from tarnishing their brand.
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I mean he is talking about an O ring. ( the OP)
Pellet shop has gotten me every part I’ve ever asked for with no issue. I payed for these parts but pellet shop sells these parts at very low prices. No gouging from them.
All PCPs can give issues .. and right from the start. Low and high end alike.
YMMV
Pellet shop has gotten me every part I’ve ever asked for with no issue. I payed for these parts but pellet shop sells these parts at very low prices. No gouging from them.
All PCPs can give issues .. and right from the start. Low and high end alike.
YMMV
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Yeah I think the Challenger line is worth looking at, but all the more expensive options seem too risky if you ask me. They sure have a ton of fpe though.
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It's just an o ring man! Take it to a hardware store and buy another.
Every industrial supply in the US can match that oring. Take it to a plumbing supply and have them measure it. Check out Grainger, McMaster Carr. Any small equipment outfit. A scuba shop. A medical supply. A welding supply. The Hillman drawers at Home Depot.
For the calories wasted fretting over it you could have excreted three.
It's a shame you have been treated badly. But that's not the problem. The oring is. Focus on finding an oring and all that salt will wash off.
Did you check for the post I mentioned? They will make any oring out of any material. You just snap a photo and your phone measures it.
Get the proper diameter urethane and make your own! Grainger has that kit too. You can make any gauge oring in any diameter you want. Easy as cutting a piece of material and putting a drop of glue on the end. Problem solved!
Every industrial supply in the US can match that oring. Take it to a plumbing supply and have them measure it. Check out Grainger, McMaster Carr. Any small equipment outfit. A scuba shop. A medical supply. A welding supply. The Hillman drawers at Home Depot.
For the calories wasted fretting over it you could have excreted three.
It's a shame you have been treated badly. But that's not the problem. The oring is. Focus on finding an oring and all that salt will wash off.
Did you check for the post I mentioned? They will make any oring out of any material. You just snap a photo and your phone measures it.
Get the proper diameter urethane and make your own! Grainger has that kit too. You can make any gauge oring in any diameter you want. Easy as cutting a piece of material and putting a drop of glue on the end. Problem solved!
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I think this is the correct approach when considering an AEA. But I also understand the frustration the OP is going through since none of the marketing expresses the user repair requirements. And maybe the industry as a whole needs to do a better job relaying the fact that pcps leak.
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OP
You can download the parts list PDF off the pelletshop website.
Just degas, unscrew the gauges replace the o-rings on both of the gauges, then reinstall them, and fill to pressure.
What I have seen on every Chinese airgun I have is they do not dress the o-rings, so when you reassemble it use a o-ring dressing.
And while you're at it, just get the o-ring list of all the o-rings and order them so that you have them on hand for when they fail, and use better o-rings than AEA does
Ser
You can download the parts list PDF off the pelletshop website.
Just degas, unscrew the gauges replace the o-rings on both of the gauges, then reinstall them, and fill to pressure.
What I have seen on every Chinese airgun I have is they do not dress the o-rings, so when you reassemble it use a o-ring dressing.
And while you're at it, just get the o-ring list of all the o-rings and order them so that you have them on hand for when they fail, and use better o-rings than AEA does
Ser
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All Schwinn bicycles were made in the U.S. when I started selling them in 1971, and Schwinn had the most logical warranty ever. To paraphrase that warranty, all Schwinns carried a "no time limit guarantee against defects in material and workmanship" to the original buyer. That was before Schwinn started embracing Japanese manufacture, then Taiwanese, then Chinese, endured multiple bankruptcies and devolutions, to become the discount-store junk they are today.
Regardless, though a no time limit warranty may be excessively generous nowadays, in my opinion warranties covering defects in materials and workmanship still make perfect sense. Possibly too much sense in 2024 to survive.
That so, in my opinion businesses that don't help their consumers experiencing problems with their products should not survive their ignorance.
As a consumer I provide feedback in only two cases- outstanding experiences, and outstandingly BAD experiences. While dealing with individuals or entities displaying tunnel vision, in some of my outstandingly BAD experience cases I've found the threat of posting my outstandingly BAD experiences ALL OVER Cyberspace has been effective in removing the blinders of those refusing to see (reality).
As a bicycle retailer for forty years I always operated under the assumption a happy customer tells his friends, but an unhappy customer tells everyone that will listen. Suffice to say there are a LOT of listeners in Cyberspace.
Regardless, though a no time limit warranty may be excessively generous nowadays, in my opinion warranties covering defects in materials and workmanship still make perfect sense. Possibly too much sense in 2024 to survive.
That so, in my opinion businesses that don't help their consumers experiencing problems with their products should not survive their ignorance.
As a consumer I provide feedback in only two cases- outstanding experiences, and outstandingly BAD experiences. While dealing with individuals or entities displaying tunnel vision, in some of my outstandingly BAD experience cases I've found the threat of posting my outstandingly BAD experiences ALL OVER Cyberspace has been effective in removing the blinders of those refusing to see (reality).
As a bicycle retailer for forty years I always operated under the assumption a happy customer tells his friends, but an unhappy customer tells everyone that will listen. Suffice to say there are a LOT of listeners in Cyberspace.
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We live in a throwaway world with less and less techs around to work on your purchased items. As the products get more complex, people stop getting the continuing education to keep up with technology. Or technology is developed in countries that don't speak the same language where the porduct was purchased.
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When I had a problem with my new Caiman Utah Airguns was very helpful in sending information about degassing the gun including pictures. I think if you need help with disassembly they would help if they can.
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Hello @AirNGasmanAll Schwinn bicycles were made in the U.S. when I started selling them in 1971, and Schwinn had the most logical warranty ever. To paraphrase that warranty, all Schwinns carried a "no time limit guarantee against defects in material and workmanship" to the original buyer. That was before Schwinn started embracing Japanese manufacture, then Taiwanese, then Chinese, endured multiple bankruptcies and devolutions, to become the discount-store junk they are today.
Regardless, though a no time limit warranty may be excessively generous nowadays, in my opinion warranties covering defects in materials and workmanship still make perfect sense. Possibly too much sense in 2024 to survive.
That so, in my opinion businesses that don't help their consumers experiencing problems with their products should not survive their ignorance.
As a consumer I provide feedback in only two cases- outstanding experiences, and outstandingly BAD experiences. While dealing with individuals or entities displaying tunnel visionn in some of my outstandingly BAD experience cases I've found the threat of posting my outstandingly BAD experiences ALL OVER Cyberspace has been effective in removing the blinders of those refusing to see (reality).
As a bicycle retailer for forty years I always operated under the assumption a happy customer tells his friends, but an unhappy customer tells everyone that will listen. Suffice to say there are a LOT of listeners in Cyberspace.
Very well stated
ThomasT
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Say what you will, this thread delivers the entertainment value!
I do think it's kinda cool that a vendor will rag on customers because some of us are occasional buttheads and we need to be recognized for it. 'Not everyone can get along with Heather"...
Cheers,
J~
I do think it's kinda cool that a vendor will rag on customers because some of us are occasional buttheads and we need to be recognized for it. 'Not everyone can get along with Heather"...
Cheers,
J~
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To be honest, I really like the looks of the Challenger Pro. I spent about an hour watching Videos on FoxAirpower I must say that the .25 producing 100+FPE was quite impressive. Most of the older Videos showed a 2 1/2 -3lb Trigger pull, he showed 1.5 on the one He had. The 2 year new warranty is better. But the horror stories have kept Me away.
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