Crosman F4 Adult Precision Air Rifle -- Review

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I like your patriotism, but it may not serve you well in airguns. the best gunsmiths are either mom and pop operation or they are big names who skip airguns and focus on powder burning rifles. The gun grabbers in Europe have forced gunsmiths over to airguns and we all benefit from that. But you may be the guy we have been waiting for to test the new Sig ASP20 that was designed and built in New Hampshire. So far, all the guys faced with dropping $375+ have bought Weirauch HW 97's, even though the SIG is probably the best quality springer ever produced.
 
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Just watched the review by Airgun Depot. Wow, that thing is sick!!! 



I just did the adjustment screw fix on my F4, really like it!! Left the lawyer spring on as I don't mind the travel, bumps nice and solid against the 2nd stage so you know right where it's at, then it's a hair trigger 2nd stage. Can't wait to take it to the range. Gotta do an accuracy map. 
 
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This is my rifle. There are many like it, but THIS one is MINE.



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As I went to take the stock off, I noticed the 2 forward bolts, just in front of the hand rest, were not even finger tight. The only one that was somewhat tight was the one under the trigger guard. 



I tried a lock washer instead of the bearing, way too hair trigger. Went with the longer adjustment screw and no bearing. May try that later. I took a 3x15mm bolt and had to cut it down to around 10mm, then had to take a little material to make the first thread nice and flush, so it's probably closer to 9mm. It's like a whole new trigger. Had to re-zero, which I kinda figured since those forward screws were so loose. My groups are less than dime-sized, now.
 
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Those copper coated 10.6gr Crosman pellets don't shoot very well and are not worth the price that even Walmart sells them for

so if you are only limited to Walmart pellets then I strongly suggest you try the 7.9gr Crosman Premier Hollowpoints
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I took your advice and picked up the 7.9 grain Crosman Premier hollow points. They shoot slightly better than those Crosman pointed flyers. Out of 34 total shots, I had over 4 flyers. In my mind, that's way too many. Are flyers something that air rifle shooters just accept?



The other thing is that, to zero my scope for these pellets, I had to go 44 clicks to the left and 5 down. The 5 down makes sense as the lighter pellet is moving slightly faster, but 44 clicks left??

From my short experience, I'll have to disagree with you when it comes to the 10.6 grain copper magnums. I shot 100's of those pellets and might've gotten one flyer. I'm willing to pay $10 for that. I'd even pay $20. 



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I can bet if you weight them and sort them in batches based on weight plus or minus .01grain your fliers won't be coming back.

There is this member here Nced who routinely weighs and measures all of his pellets and has incredible accuracy with his

spring rifles at long distances out to 50yards shooting off a bucket and sticks.

Those 7.9gr CPHPs typically do well in many spring guns based on all of the info researched as well as from first hand testing.

If you want to try other pellets which are typically proven to give good accuracy results then the Czech Republic made JSB / Air Arms 8.44gr and the

10.34gr are what the field target shooters prefer to shoot as well as most others and personally have a lot of guns that likes them

as well. The German H&N Barracuda Match 10.6gr would be another good choice. There are also PREMIUM brown boxed Made in USA Crosman Premiers that are very expensive which are manufactured in the same die

in both 7.9gr and 10.5gr and some target shooters have incredible accuracy with them. I think it may be worth while to invest in

other quality pellets since it looks like your gun has the capability to shoot accurately. You just need to find the one pellet that your

gun likes the best by keep trying different ones until you find the magic pellet for it.



CA
 
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I can bet if you weight them and sort them in batches based on weight plus or minus .01grain your fliers won't be coming back.

There is this member here Nced who routinely weighs and measures all of his pellets and has incredible accuracy with his

spring rifles at long distances out to 50yards shooting off a bucket and sticks.
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I'm new to this, but to me that's nuts. Doing the manufacturer's QA for them?? Yikes!



Just signed up with Pyramid Air and ordered the JSB Match Diabolo Exact .177 Cal, 8.44 Grains, Domed, 500ct, 4.52mm; JSB Match Diabolo Test Sampler, .177 Cal, Round Nose & Pointed, 4 Pellet Types, 400ct; H&N Field Target Trophy, .177 Cal, 8.64 Grains, Domed, 500ct; and finally, H&N Baracuda match, .177 Cal, 10.65 Grains, Round Nose, 400ct.



I read the article on how JSB makes their pellets and does their own QA. I'm very hopeful to have some quality pellets...hopefully before Christmas.



Can we talk about shipping? If it can be here next day, why aren't we making that the standard? Build the cost for it into the product. These shipping gimmicks are tired. 
 
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I think if you can alter your order and add the 10.34gr JSB or Air Arms 10.3gr it would be another worthwhile pellet instead of the pellet sampler because there are two in that samplers that I really think won't do well anyway.

Believe it or not, QC is not as good as one would expect thus the need to weigh and sort by head sizes which the extremely precision minded target shooters do regularly before even shooting them, they even wash them first.

CA
 
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So what did you finally end up as your go to pellet for the f4? I just grabbed one from wally world and I'm going to order some pellets. Thx!
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I bought a F4 over a year ago like the OP did. Once "broken-in," I found that H&N FTT's at 4.52mm sizing and also JSB heavies shot excellent through it. Mileage may vary depending on how your barrel is in yours. After 500 shots, the lockup on the barrel went to crap quickly and needed some TLC.

I have NPE/NP2's in .177 and .22, and the .22 is great, and far-less "pellet picky." The thing I like about the NP2's is that the build of the rifles is more solid, but the added velocity in .177 forces the use of slightly heavier pellets to keep velocities under the trans-sonic range to keep decent accuracy.

My .22 is a real shooter... but also keep in mind that I modified the trigger with a lighter spring, stoned the sear to a nice polish, put a new viton oring in the barrel breach face OTB, removed the screws and used blue Loctite all-around during re-assembly, went with different scope rings and better scopes, etc. I am doing the same with the .177 NP2 this week.

They are not perfect out of the box, but with some extra time, elbow-grease, and dedication (and money), they can be good shooters. If you hit their sales up on Crosman's website before January 1, you can pick up something even better and cheaper than the F4.

PT
 
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