Crosman has let me down. Whats the point if its all made in China?

Obviously you missed Crosman's 'classic to plastic' devolution (my term for it) DEVOLUTION of the late twentieth century, when virtually all their guns were of PLASTIC, pot-metal and stamped-steel construction; literally disposable junk. 🤮

BTW, FYI and FWIW, far as I know all that garbage was built in the U.S. (decades ago)! 😱

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That’s not entirely true though. While Crosman brand guns have undeniably gone down in quality, they also make Benjamins which are every bit as good as the Crosman products of 50 years ago.
 
That’s not entirely true though. While Crosman brand guns have undeniably gone down in quality, they also make Benjamins which are every bit as good as the Crosman products of 50 years ago.
I doubt anything is as good as 50 yrs ago. Everything today is use and throw away. cant even get a decent refrigerator
 
I gave up worrying about where things were made a good while back. Made in China is a fact of life. They can make good quality merchandise but often just don’t bother. They know it will sell. I’ve been able to put together a nice selection of quality airguns, some new and a few ‘vintage’. don’t know where some were made but i won’t buy cheap crap products of any kind and if we hit a point where that’s all that’s available I just won’t bother. Many here, myself included, keep buying things just to get something new, retail therapy. When my grandfather passed he had one .22 rifle, one Colt revolver and that was it. He had what he needed and saw no reason for more. The .22 was rabbit control and the Colt was his side arm as a deputy and later what he kept close by while running a country store. At the end of the day, if the junk products simply don’t sell, they’ll have to do better or someone else will.

Rick H.
 
That’s not entirely true though. While Crosman brand guns have undeniably gone down in quality, they also make Benjamins which are every bit as good as the Crosman products of 50 years ago.

As I recall, Crosman's classic to plastic CRASH AND BURN came after they were bought out (multiple times) by this or that conglomerate; whereupon the number-crunchers' knee-jerk reactions are almost invariably "make 'em CHEAPER!" Upon seeing HOW MUCH cheaper they made them in the 80s and 90s I figured Crosman was history; no way they'd survive selling utter garbage.

Then they started making PCPS; cheap ones at first. Then Maruders, 1701s and 1720s! :oops: Not sure exactly how that came about, but do know it was largely with Hans and Ray Appelles' help.

Those post-plastic-crap devolution Crosman PCPS are the most logical, easily worked on and souped-up airguns I've ever experienced; and can pretty much shoot with anything at any price. Hence, several times I've given Crosman credit for resurrecting themselves from the garbage-heap.

On a related note- after testing a Benjamin Model 342 MSP for an American Airgunner magazine article in the 1980s I was not only extremely impressed with it, but have wanted one ever since. Unfortunately the Crosman-made equivalent (Benjamin Model 392) went to a plastic trigger-block unit and walnut-STAINED hardwood stock, rather than walnut.

So I agree that it's not entirely true that ALL Crosmans of the late 20th century are plastic junk. A few aren't.

That stated, I do wonder if Crosman can pull off another miraculous resurrection after the latest devolution that is the subject of this thread. Have my doubts. However I'd be happy to help them...

For my usual consulting rate of $500/hour.

Because I'm SUCH a humanitarian! 🤑

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Hi friends,

After buying many a crosman product, I decided to buy an additional 2240xl to replace one I gave to a friend. We'll, it arrived today and immediately after unboxing it I noticed how different it looked from all the other 2240s and 13xx series guns. The blueing, milling and barel finish were nothing like I've seen in a crosman product. It was a noticeable step down in quality.

When I cocked it, it felt gritty. And the trigger... wow. The basic 22xx and 13xx series are not good triggers by any means, but this was way worse. It felt like a box of rocks. I've had toys that had better triggers.

Then after further inspection I noticed there was no engraved text on the frame, just a gold paint with the model. Then, there it was sticking out. Made in China.

When did this happen? All my other 22xx 13xx to my knowledge are atleast made to some degree in the US. What's the point of buying a crosman product when other China brands are leaps and bounds above this flaming heap of a 2240xl.

Wow thanks crosman for all the good old times but this is my last product from them. I'll keep this as a reminder to never buy another of their guns again.
I bought one of their fill bottles and it literally blew up the first time I tried filling it.
 
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I gave up worrying about where things were made a good while back. Made in China is a fact of life. They can make good quality merchandise but often just don’t bother. They know it will sell. I’ve been able to put together a nice selection of quality airguns, some new and a few ‘vintage’. don’t know where some were made but i won’t buy cheap crap products of any kind and if we hit a point where that’s all that’s available I just won’t bother. Many here, myself included, keep buying things just to get something new, retail therapy. When my grandfather passed he had one .22 rifle, one Colt revolver and that was it. He had what he needed and saw no reason for more. The .22 was rabbit control and the Colt was his side arm as a deputy and later what he kept close by while running a country store. At the end of the day, if the junk products simply don’t sell, they’ll have to do better or someone else will.

Rick H.
no they will just keep selling junk till the quality products price themselves out of the market .