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Did you know crows are a protected species? As far as I know they aren't good for much beyond emptying the bird feeder in a jiffy and generally making a big mess of any trash they can get to. Well just outside Washington DC someone shot a crow with a "blow" gun. The dart/small arrow they show could very well have come from some other weapon. Needless to say the snowflakes are up in arms more so than if a person was shot.... The story was on every news outlet in the area.

https://www.awla.org/animal-control/crow-shot-with-blow-gun-in-fairlington/

No word on the birds condition.

So make sure that you know who is watching when a crow is in the cross hairs.
 
I most certainly do not condone people shooting anything living for the fun of it.

But pests i will shoot, and also have fun doing so.

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Actually right now in my area this guy are flying around, it is NOT something you see here normally, but no one have any idea where it come from.

And i very much so hope no one is going to put anything but food in that guy,,,, even if poisoning of eagles / birds of prey are not a unknown thing here either ( using carbofuran which is a potent pesticide )

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I live in NY and the only 2 birds that can legally be shot are Starlings and HOSPS, everything else is protected. While I can't legally shoot them, there's nothing that says I can't fire a warning shot to chase them off and it works. They're actually very smart even if ugly pests. Scare the bejesus out of the scout and he warns the rest to stay away.
 
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Pigeon and ringneck or Eurasian dove also have no laws protecting them. In the U.S. Shooting to scare off might not be a good idea. Game laws are set up and enforced on INTENT. In other words you don't have to commit a violation to be found guilty of it. If your at the lake with a fishing pole in your boat or even your car and no fishing license, fishing or not, it's easy to make the case you intended to and ticket you for fishing with out a license. If you are seen shooting at, no way out , you will get charged with intended to take. And possibly harassment as well. Making no judgment on any one or thing only trying to point out the quagmire that are our game laws.
 
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Did you know crows are a protected species?  As far as I know they aren't good for much beyond emptying the bird feeder in a jiffy and generally making a big mess of any trash they can get to. Well just outside Washington DC someone shot a crow with a "blow" gun. The dart/small arrow they show could very well have come from some other weapon. Needless to say the snowflakes are up in arms more so than if a person was shot.... The story was on every news outlet in the area.

https://www.awla.org/animal-control/crow-shot-with-blow-gun-in-fairlington/

No word on the birds condition.

So make sure that you know who is watching when a crow is in the cross hairs.
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Yea. I was aware they are protected.


I’ve discussed conflicting state laws and federal protections on these corvids in a couple of threads. Some states have hunting seasons for them. Each creature has a role to play in our environments, but these birds are pretty abundant. They are opportunistic and omnivorous scavengers. In my region the eat a lot of carrion and will eat fruit, vegetable, and nut crops as well as cattle feed among other things. I’m not sure how many natural predators prey on them, if any. I see and hear them tangle with hawks frequent enough, but it seems the two species are in competition. Something has to check their numbers because they can and do become destructive in my neck of the woods.
 
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Well, well! You'll be happy to know that in Ohio, you can shoot crows most of the year on Friday, Saturday and Sunday. I got my first crow this year right at the end of the season (season starts back up in June).

So, before you spread the rumor that you can't shoot crows, you have to know which state someone is in, and what the state laws are.

I know one thing, those birds are massive! It was like 20 inches tall!
 
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If it’s truly a pest and you can shoot it discreetly in your backyard just do it. Who cares if a bunch idiot bureaucrats put it on some arbitrary enviro-psycho list.
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You don't shoot it because it's against the law. Don't like the law, push your lawmakers to take the law off of the books, but you can't just shoot them in your backyard anymore than you can shoot me in your backyard.


 
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I forgot to say.

I personally have some problems with overly sensitive and empathic people, even if empathy are a good trait. I think it also come down to personal involvement that even for a good course can get too strong.

There are many things i like but i have never been a huge fanboy of any of them, cuz IMO thats dangerous, the soccer game are very popular here,,,, i stay well clear of fans of that silly game.

I like motorsports, but the fact we Danes again have a Dane racing in F1 dont excite me much, and it probably wouldn't even if he should start to do top 3 finishes. TBH i prefer more marginal motorsports, though Rally have a huge spot in my heart and i do say it is the only motorsport for real men. But i have never been to a actual rally event.
 
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Crows are federally protected and fall under 50 CFR 21.43. 

Clearly states that crows can be taken when doing crop damage. Read about it.. 

we have a season on crows, but don’t have to follow due to crop damage. 

Crows kill baby song birds! Hell on turkey eggs.
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Thank you for posting this. I’d seen something similar in my state Wildlife Department’s literature, but not from a federal agency. What @MarkT posted looks accurate. Below is a link to the source of info https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2014-title50-vol9/pdf/CFR-2014-title50-vol9-sec21-43.pdf

Here’s an additional memo from the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Fish and Wildlife Service dated 10- 29-2021 which specifies the parameters of controlling depredating birds under federal protection during their different stages of life. https://www.fws.gov/sites/default/files/documents/migratory-bird-permit-memoradum-depredation-order-blackbirds-cowbirds-crows-grackles-and-magpies.pdf

If anyone comes across more current legislation containing changes please post it.
 
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In order to protect the next generation of songbirds, I've a gun stand by a lawn chair on back porch, where I spend as much sentry duty, as possible. Surrounded on 3 sides by woods, I've cleared a path to a centrally located makeshift blind. Crows are very vocal so I use my ears to initially locate. I've cleared additional shooting sites, as well as shooting lanes, to popular crow landing trees. A range finder is essential to establish correct aiming for specific trees. Crows are also very smart so a camo shirt and a cloth camo sleeve, covering gun barrel, are helpful. I've 6 PCPs, I rotate on sentry duty. Wildcat MKIII .30 Sniper, with West Hunter 6-24x50 FFP, is most successful. Scoring a hit will send others in a frenzied rage, which leads to mistakes in judgement, make sure your magazine is full. Best of Luck, WM
 
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Read the last line of Ezana4CE second link. That is federal law, but any state can have their own laws too. It may or may not be legal in your state. And even if it is they may have restrictions on time of day or year and most likely method of take. Laws don't spell out all the things you can't do, they do list all that is legal. If air guns are not on that list sorry not legal. Always contact your states wildlife department. Keep a record of who and when you spoke to. That is your best defense against any expensive surprises. Game laws are constantly changing and can be different from one county to the next in the same state. Not trying to tell anyone what to do only trying to point out a few of the pitfalls of our game laws.
 
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Crows are federally protected and fall under 50 CFR 21.43. 

Clearly states that crows can be taken when doing crop damage. Read about it.. 

we have a season on crows, but don’t have to follow due to crop damage. 

Crows kill baby song birds! Hell on turkey eggs.
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Kind of confusing if you ask me. Doesn't Federal law supercede any state law ? How can a particular state have a season on crows when the Feds say you can't shoot them unless they are engaged in crop damage ?
 
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