I use a crown saver also because it's the best dang pull thru that I've ever seen ... you can make your patches just as tight as you want to and don't have to worry about the loop breakin' . For patches I use Napier Rifle Clean it's super absorbent and just a few patches will get everything in the bore. Sometimes I will put a little Ballistol on the Napier patches and it usually does a banged up job on my Impact.