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Curiosity question

We have one in our usual rotation of shooters. She does very well and is usually near the top of the HFT leaderboard. No suprise, she's usually near the top of our bench rest learderboard as well.
is she using the Delta wolf or the Alpha wolf as i'm curious about how the stock difference is affecting usage.
 
I shoot my DW in 20 for Open class or Hunter and would shoot it in 177 in WFTF if I had intent for the Worlds... Also use it in 22 or 25 for EFT. I've done ok with it. I just really enjoy the ergo's and I'm sure it's had more than 40k rounds through it in all the calibers with the testing I've done.
That said, there are a nice pile of competitive airguns in my safe that I also enjoy. Sometimes, one of those get the opportunity 😉
Bob
 
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You have an alpha and a ghost I believe do you find much difference between them for ft?
Yes but not for the most obvious reasons... My HFT Ghost is carbine, And yesterday for the first time, i shifted my Alphawolf over to a similar carbine type configuration. The Ghost has a 13" barrel and the Alpha a 17" barrel (guessing a bit) Same scopes, same parallax wheel, same pic rail, same rings, same pellets, same speed of pellets, etc... same same same just no electronics or wooden stock fitted to the Ghost. What is most notable is the more difficult time i have fitting a proper hamster to the Alphawolf and maintaining the legal HFT Center of barrel to lowest part of stock forward of the grip. My ghost has an aftermarket PRS UIT type rail under the bottle. The Alphawolf only has a 3" section of picatinny so the hamsters are much different. These two pictures are not the most current configurations but they will give you an idea. Please excuse the white gaffers tape on the wolf... it's a work in progress as i wouldn't want to scratch my stock up in the sticks. I think the Alphawolf if left as a Deltawolf would allow the same type of UIT rail and thus a similar weight and balance at the shoulder during a forced lane shot. Also the more vertical grip on the Ghost seems advantageous in pulling the overall gun downward rather than forward. Hope that makes sense... as the biggest struggle to me with the Alpha is a feeling of tipsiness in both the sticks and offhand. I have not finished my setup of the Alpha yet as i have not found it's best for me hamster/stock configuration.

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I don’t have and have never shot an alpha but my ghosts I shoot a lot and both are hp 23” barrels. For me standing ( which I’m not very good anymore cause of my back) I’ve made myself a simple non adjustable hamster that I use with a open palm but with a finger pulling back to shoulder and my elbow tucked solidly to side. I also put a bit of pressure on grip to shoulder and find it works best for me. To me the big difference I see between your setups is hamster and hand stop try making similar setups and see sometimes its a tiny difference that makes all the difference. Here’s a pic of my hamster.
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I've shot a DW in open, wftf and hunter as well as EFT. I don't love it for Hunter, but that's mostly because I don't love Hunter, more of a scope issue than a gun issue. For WFTF and Open, I have a UIT rail attached to the extended Arca rail with a Sub Moa hamster and a Sub Moa butt pad/hook. I recently switched to an MPA EVG grip. I have the 17 inch barrel and it loves the JSB MRD at about 815 fps and the AA Heavies. I used the AA and JSB 8.4s for WFTF. For EFT I pop in the 28" .30 barrel, take off the hamster and add about 3 pounds of weight at the front of the rail.

When I first got it, I shot hunter with it better than anything else I've shot Hunter with. When I switched to WFTF, I shot WFTF with it better than anything else I've shot WFTF with. When I switched to Open, I got in a shoot off for 1st at Cajuns. The gun has won EFT matches, but not with me shooting it. I've also shot it for a few NRL22 matches, but it is not really setup for that due to the balance, fore-end height and 8 round .30 magazines.

I never had a desire to convert it to an Alpha because the Alpha stock seems too limiting to me between the fore-end and grip.
 
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I've shot a DW in open, wftf and hunter as well as EFT. I don't love it for Hunter, but that's mostly because I don't love Hunter, more of a scope issue than a gun issue. For WFTF and Open, I have a UIT rail attached to the extended Arca rail with a Sub Moa hamster and a Sub Moa butt pad/hook. I recently switched to an MPA EVG grip. I have the 17 inch barrel and it loves the JSB MRD at about 815 fps and the AA Heavies. I used the AA and JSB 8.4s for WFTF. For EFT I pop in the 28" .30 barrel, take off the hamster and add about 3 pounds of weight at the front of the rail.

When I first got it, I shot hunter with it better than anything else I've shot Hunter with. When I switched to WFTF, I shot WFTF with it better than anything else I've shot WFTF with. When I switched to Open, I got in a shoot off for 1st at Cajuns. The gun has won EFT matches, but not with me shooting it. I've also shot it for a few NRL22 matches, but it is not really setup for that due to the balance, fore-end height and 8 round .30 magazines.

I never had a desire to convert it to an Alpha because the Alpha stock seems too limiting to me between the fore-end and grip.
Your last paragraph is summarizing my thoughts to this point in time
 
I've shot a DW in open, wftf and hunter as well as EFT. I don't love it for Hunter, but that's mostly because I don't love Hunter, more of a scope issue than a gun issue. For WFTF and Open, I have a UIT rail attached to the extended Arca rail with a Sub Moa hamster and a Sub Moa butt pad/hook. I recently switched to an MPA EVG grip. I have the 17 inch barrel and it loves the JSB MRD at about 815 fps and the AA Heavies. I used the AA and JSB 8.4s for WFTF. For EFT I pop in the 28" .30 barrel, take off the hamster and add about 3 pounds of weight at the front of the rail.

When I first got it, I shot hunter with it better than anything else I've shot Hunter with. When I switched to WFTF, I shot WFTF with it better than anything else I've shot WFTF with. When I switched to Open, I got in a shoot off for 1st at Cajuns. The gun has won EFT matches, but not with me shooting it. I've also shot it for a few NRL22 matches, but it is not really setup for that due to the balance, fore-end height and 8 round .30 magazines.

I never had a desire to convert it to an Alpha because the Alpha stock seems too limiting to me between the fore-end and grip.
3 weeks later - I think your last sentence summarizes my thoughts-the Alpha stock is too limiting!! And while pretty, the Deltawolf setup is much more adaptable and easier to accessorize. HFT, EFT, Benchrest, the Delta wins the battle as the Alphawolf stock takes away many potential stabilizing opportunities.
 
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3 weeks later - I think your last sentence summarizes my thoughts-the Alpha stock is too limiting!! And while pretty, the Deltawolf setup is much more adaptable and easier to accessorize. HFT, EFT, Benchrest, the Delta wins the battle.

Scotton is the only one I know of in North and central Texas. But you can't swing a dead cat without whacking several Red Wolf shooters; mostly in Hunter.

Being a hunter myself, and often besieged by feral cats and resultant vet bills for Whiskers, I keep several frozen cats in inventory at any given time.

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Scotton is the only one I know of in North and central Texas. But you can't swing a dead cat without whacking several Red Wolf shooters; mostly in Hunter.

Being a hunter myself, and often besieged by feral cats and resultant vet bills for Whiskers, I keep several frozen cats in inventory at any given time.

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Well, there was an Alpha Wolf at your EFT match recently. And I think Susan was shooting DW's Delta Wolf. I realize counting to 3 is three times as hard as counting to one, but I'll show you how I like to count to one next time I see you.
 
Well, there was an Alpha Wolf at your EFT match recently. And I think Susan was shooting DW's Delta Wolf. I realize counting to 3 is three times as hard as counting to one, but I'll show you how I like to count to one next time I see you.

Believe it or not, and I do realize how difficult it is to believe anything I say or keyboard, once again there was a method to my madness.🤪
Since the OP specifically referenced AAFTA classes in his OP, my bloviation specifically targeted AAFTA shooters. I figured there was no need to suck innocent EFT shooters into this (assuming there are any😂).

I suppose it's my own fault that anyone who knows me automatically assumes if my lips are moving or my fingers keyboarding anything spewing forth is either Texaggeration, BS, bad jokes, or lies. However some of the aforementioned falls under a heading I often employ- "The truth is fantastic enough for our purposes".

That said, I purposely neglected mentioning that time the duct-tape-fabricated handle on a worn-out cat let go in full swing, the mostly-thawed feline catching you upside the head, dropping you like a Dylan Mulvaney upkick to the jewels.:eek: Took over a half-hour of mouth-to-mouth to resusitate you back to consciousness.:oops: Don't think you've been quite the same ever since. But I assure you all our FT buddies are neither looking at you weirdly, nor giggling behind your back.

BTW, how's the resultant PTSD 'counseling' going? Still experiencing frequent nightmares of your first vision after regaining consciousness? My apologies; in retrospect I probably should have taken the time to comb my hair before a tempting resuscitation. My bad!

But at least the resuscitation was successful. Well... partially successful. Okay, NOT A TOTAL FAILURE!

FWIW, I meant well.:rolleyes:

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Believe it or not, and I do realize how difficult it is to believe anything I say or keyboard, once again there was a method to my madness.🤪
Since the OP specifically referenced AAFTA classes in his OP, my bloviation specifically targeted AAFTA shooters. I figured there was no need to suck innocent EFT shooters into this (assuming there are any😂).

I suppose it's my own fault that anyone who knows me automatically assumes if my lips are moving or my fingers keyboarding anything spewing forth is either Texaggeration, BS, bad jokes, or lies. However some of the aforementioned falls under a heading I often employ- "The truth is fantastic enough for our purposes".

That said, I purposely neglected mentioning that time the duct-tape-fabricated handle on a worn-out cat let go in full swing, the mostly-thawed feline catching you upside the head, dropping you like a Dylan Mulvaney upkick to the jewels.:eek: Took over a half-hour of mouth-to-mouth to resusitate you back to consciousness.:oops: Don't think you've been quite the same ever since. But I assure you all our FT buddies are neither looking at you weirdly, nor giggling behind your back.

BTW, how's the resultant PTSD 'counseling' going? Still experiencing frequent nightmares of your first vision after regaining consciousness? My apologies; in retrospect I probably should have taken the time to comb my hair before a tempting resuscitation. My bad!

But at least the resuscitation was successful. Well... partially successful. Okay, NOT A TOTAL FAILURE!

FWIW, I meant well.:rolleyes:

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Ya'll,
i like an inside joke... unfortunately I'm not inside but the jest does seem intriguing, but i wont ask. Don't ask don't tell.

But yes i was interested in AAFTA people using the Alphawolf platform... but ok to add EFT to the numbers which so far are few and far between. My thoughts are the Delta wolf is far more suitable to AAFTA field target or EFT do to some adaptability that the Alphawolf stock takes away.
 
Ya'll,
i like an inside joke... unfortunately I'm not inside but the jest does seem intriguing, but i wont ask. Don't ask don't tell.

But yes i was interested in AAFTA people using the Alphawolf platform... but ok to add EFT to the numbers which so far are few and far between. My thoughts are the Delta wolf is far more suitable to AAFTA field target or EFT do to some adaptability that the Alphawolf stock takes away.


Why do you do this @cavedweller ?
Now I've got to dig out the transitioned Delta Wolf and bring her back to her original form.
Then spend some quality time sorting her out - or just leaving her as a 25 cal for EFT......
 
Why do you do this @cavedweller ?
Now I've got to dig out the transitioned Delta Wolf and bring her back to her original form.
Then spend some quality time sorting her out - or just leaving her as a 25 cal for EFT......
What are Rod's friends for...? If not to inspire us to new depths of despair....
But even for EFT the Alphawolf will lack the essential adaptability that makes the Deltawolf so much more practical.
 
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