Crosman Custom shoulder stock for Crosman 1322

[jasonosaurus]

Hi, all. This is my first post, so apologies for any goofy formatting issues. I've got a Crosman 1322, and am in the middle of creating a custom shoulder stock for it. I've read a lot of posts about people modifying the internals on Crosmans, but haven't seen anything like this. I'd love people to give me some feedback, and would also love to see other custom stocks that people have made.

So far what I've got is basically just an art project - essentially just a pattern for the final stock. What's shown in the pics below is made from wood, bondo, and a two-part epoxy product called "apoxie sculpt". I've spray painted to get a uniform finish. (and to better see imperfections, which I've then buffed out). I'll use this to make a hollow cast with polyurethane resin. I think the end result should be light and durable, but this is new to me and I'm learning as I go. As it stands now, the stock shown in the photos isn't too heavy, but it's heavier than I'd like. And I don't think it would hold up well to bumps and dings.

So what do people think so far? I had planned to do some kind of stippling or texture on the grip, but I'm really liking this smooth finish. It's extremely comfortable and handy. The cheek riser looks kind of extreme, but it lines my eye up perfectly with the scope. If I'm successful with this stock, I'll do a matching pump arm. That should be easier. Looking forward to hearing some comments! Thanks.

 

[Simplemann]

Looks good.

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

Looks really good to me.

On a personal preference I would make the left side of the stock look like the RH side. More of an ambidextrous stock. That's just my opinion and you can throw it out the window.

 

[jasonosaurus]

Ha. No, your opinion is legit. The grip is sort of a target-style grip, for righties only, and so I opted to put the cheek riser only on the one side too. I'm not sure if I made the right call. I like the way this looks, with all its exaggerated features, but maybe a symmetric ambidextrous one would look better. If this one turns out okay, I will try some other ideas.

Any other comments? What do people think of the smooth finish? Would you put some sort of texture on the grip, or leave it smooth? I'm approaching the point where the next thing I do will be to create a mold, so all these details will become permanent. I'm feeling hesitation.

Any photos of stocks that other people have made?

 

[Mike_Lenardon]

Leave it smooth.
As far as other stocks, look up a member; Loren. There are a few here that have made stocks. Can't remember their name though, sorry.

 

[DARKHORSE1967]

Kinda looks like a Mad Dog Marauder stock's "revolutionary" comb design

 

[jasonosaurus]

Leave it smooth.
As far as other stocks, look up a member; Loren. There are a few here that have made stocks. Can't remember their name though, sorry.

Hey, neat. Thanks for the tip. Loren does some amazing work. And that led me to some other members who make beautiful wood stocks. I don't have the skill to work with wood like that, and for sure don't have the right tools. But I love seeing the craftsmanship that other people have. There are some real artists here.

I haven't seen many non-wood stocks though. I guess if people are going to go through the effort of making a stock, they want wood. Which I get. But for folks like me, who don't have the experience or tools for wood, I'm surprised there aren't more examples of stocks made from other materials. Especially among the Crosman-tinkerer-modder crowd.

DARKHORSE -
Thanks for the note about Mad Dog stocks. I found the website and browsed for a good while. Cool options. The Marauder stock shown below is from that website. The cheek riser looks even more exaggerated than my creation. A note on the website says that all stocks are wood, with a coating of some sort.

I also found this, created by member Dr. Kralenstein of this website. He took pistol and rifle halves (both wood), and grafted them together into this nice little package. Pretty cool.

 

[Bandito]

That prototype looks good to me as well as having the practical side to it. I have an inline muzzleloader cast of a two part plastic product. The inventor made a suitable stock of walnut, produced a flexible mold, then cast the plastic of the two part product in the mold. You had to carefully cut the rubber mold off the casting. Reusing may or may not be a thing. It was fairly sturdy as a solid plastic stock but couldn't take the g's of a 45 inline for heavy loads. But I have shot this 38 a bit, mostly with target loads and it has held since the 70s. All that said, it should hold up to a 13xx at any power level. At HPA OR Co² level. Sorry for the long winded description. Be Well Brothers, dito.

 

[Bandito]

Dr. K. Bravo. B.

 

[jasonosaurus]

That prototype looks good to me as well as having the practical side to it. I have an inline muzzleloader cast of a two part plastic product. The inventor made a suitable stock of walnut, produced a flexible mold, then cast the plastic of the two part product in the mold. You had to carefully cut the rubber mold off the casting. Reusing may or may not be a thing. It was fairly sturdy as a solid plastic stock but couldn't take the g's of a 45 inline for heavy loads. But I have shot this 38 a bit, mostly with target loads and it has held since the 70s. All that said, it should hold up to a 13xx at any power level. At HPA OR Co² level. Sorry for the long winded description. Be Well Brothers, dito.

Bandito -
Thanks for the input! That's exactly what I'm planning. I've done some research, but it will be a new experience for me so I expect to find some challenges along the way. I'll be sure to report back with updates as I go.

 

[Bandito]

J I wish I could remember the two relevant products but it has been almost 50 years. Must be better products to use by now. Good luck and show us parts of the process as you go. The parts that work and the unsuccessful. Be Well, dito.

 

[Dr. Kralenstein]

Hey, neat. Thanks for the tip. Loren does some amazing work. And that led me to some other members who make beautiful wood stocks. I don't have the skill to work with wood like that, and for sure don't have the right tools. But I love seeing the craftsmanship that other people have. There are some real artists here.

I haven't seen many non-wood stocks though. I guess if people are going to go through the effort of making a stock, they want wood. Which I get. But for folks like me, who don't have the experience or tools for wood, I'm surprised there aren't more examples of stocks made from other materials. Especially among the Crosman-tinkerer-modder crowd.

DARKHORSE -
Thanks for the note about Mad Dog stocks. I found the website and browsed for a good while. Cool options. The Marauder stock shown below is from that website. The cheek riser looks even more exaggerated than my creation. A note on the website says that all stocks are wood, with a coating of some sort.

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I also found this, created by member Dr. Kralenstein of this website. He took pistol and rifle halves (both wood), and grafted them together into this nice little package. Pretty cool.
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I think i know that guy!


I'm currently in the winter rabbit hole with some crosman builds going.

I have made a few mash up stocks with fiberglass and wood. I have a lot of experience with fiberglass and body work, so it's 2nd nature to me now. Lots of sanding though.

I made this one from 1/4" lauan panels and then coated with fiberglass resin.

The cool outweighed the ugly on that one lol.

BTW, I'm over in St Charles, what part of STL you in? Maybe get together when the weather is better and go shooting.

 

[Bandito]

How about products that make impressions for dentists? B.

 

[jasonosaurus]

... I made this one from 1/4" lauan panels and then coated with fiberglass resin.

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The cool outweighed the ugly on that one lol.

BTW, I'm over in St Charles, what part of STL you in? Maybe get together when the weather is better and go shooting.

Dr. K -

That looks like it could be in a museum. Airgun as art. I love it.

I'm down in St Louis proper, what they call the Benton Park neighborhood. I'd love to get together for some shooting once this weather gets better. But I should warn you that I'm several decades out of practice as a shooter. This Crosman that I'm playing with is sort of my reintroduction to airguns after a very long time away.

 

[jasonosaurus]

J I wish I could remember the two relevant products but it has been almost 50 years. Must be better products to use by now. Good luck and show us parts of the process as you go. The parts that work and the unsuccessful. Be Well, dito.

Bandito -
I'll be sure to report back as I try things out. A company called "smooth-on" makes a bunch of different silicones and casting resins. I've got one of their resins, "epoxacast 690", but so far I've only made a little test-puck. It seems like a super hard and rugged material. Another one I want to try is smooth-on's "Task 4" resin.

 

[Bandito]

Ahh, but do you want it fixed or flexible? Easier to remove from a valuable one off stock? Wish I could remember the whole process as described to me. I believe the walnut stock on my 45 inline is the original for the mold. The resulting mold wasn't useable many times. Good luck with your project. Several guys are rooting for you. Be Well Brother, dito.