Daystate Pulsar power re-programming question

[shutik]

Is it possible to re-program power levels on Daystate pulsar?

Current power levels are: Hi - 35 FPE, Med - 31 FPE, LOW - 23 FPE (This is 22 caliber)

I'd like to turn down LOW power setting to 20 FPE. Does anyone know how to accomplish this?

 

[allan_wind]

I image it works like the AirWolf MCT which is adjustable by the dealer (i.e. check with AOA).

 

[shutik]

Thanks Allan, will give them a call.

 

[Pappy]

"allan_wind"I image it works like the AirWolf MCT which is adjustable by the dealer (i.e. check with AOA).

Ditto ...... AOA can "program" this for you.

Pappy

 

[shutik]

Thanks guys, called AOA, they said they have computer they sell for $400 that you can use yourself to re-program power levels on Daystate.

 

[AirRanger]

Very interesting Shutik, I’d appreciate it if you could give us your review/observation of this tuning computer. I’ve seen it used in a couple Daystate factory tour videos on YouTube if that’s the device AOA is referring to but I’ll be curious to see how adjustable your gun will be with this new tool.

 

[shutik]

I didn't buy it, too much $$. May be one day. AOA guy mentioned that they just got these in very recently.

 

[Ronin001]

Thats is a very much needed item for the Pulsar. Glad the new Daystate Red Wolf is fully adjustable I bet they will update the Pulsar to what the Wolf computer has next year. Until then $400 computer will be needed to reprogram it. 

 

[Glem.Chally]

Seems like a rip off to be honest that's typically the advantage of electronics is to be able to tweak them without turning screws etc. Once they limit things behind a "pay wall" I don't see value in that. Just my opinion.

 

[shutik]

One more thing that I forgot to mention is that you have to change all power levels, you can't just program it them any way you like.

So you program maximum, and med and low auto derived from that number via percentage. (85% for medium and 65% for low)

Seems like the rip off to me as well, that's why I did not buy it. If any of you guys get this special computer, let us know how it does.

 

[Glem.Chally]

"shutik"One more thing that I forgot to mention is that you have to change all power levels, you can't just program it them any way you like.
So you program maximum, and med and low auto derived from that number via percentage. (85% for medium and 65% for low)
Seems like the rip off to me as well, that's why I did not buy it. If any of you guys get this special computer, let us know how it does.

Even worse!

They could have easily added a little micro-usb connection to the board then you can plug it into your computer and tweak the settings as you like (within parameters). But no, you need a special Daystate computer to interface with this. People would be happy to pay 75$ for the software and maybe a proprietary cable.

 

[jorgemac]

$400 !! it's crazy.
Almost $3000 a Pulsar and $100 the magazine. With this prices I dont think that Daystate can compete with FX.

 

[Glem.Chally]

Yeah it is crazy, here's what I use to adjust the power to the exact speed/FPE I want in minutes.

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[az4946]

Does anyone know when the Red Wold is do to arrive in stores. Very interested in one. Also would like a Pulsar.....but wow! That cost is pretty high! 

 

[hawkeye69]

I was initially intrigued by the electronics and programming options with the Pulsar. Seemed like a lot of potential, but it's dissappointingly elementary. 

 

[Macros]

They were onto something with the Airwolf MVT. That thing was adjustable in the extreme - up there with the crown and impact (although lower max power and no caliber change of course), but easier, could be done on the fly and was available many years earlier. Just input the exact FPS you wanted on the side screen, fire three or four calibration shots with your pellet of choice and off you went. Chrony was seriously precise and ensured a tiny extreme spread-mine was 5 over over 140 shots in .22. One of my biggest airgun regrets is selling mine to ‘get something new’. Dumbest move I ever made.

Pity the chrony wire was so easy to break, causing people to whine and whine, and Daystate to ditch the tech rather than idiot proof it... sigh. No idea why. Probably a decision made by their accountants and actuaries. Wish they’d bring it back! 

Of course now they can sell a stupid little tuning computer instead...

 

[shutik]

I've ordered some of Nielsen swaged ammo to test in Pulsar.

Got 21,23,27,28 grains sampler pack.

Will shoot groups at 100 yards.

 

[hawkeye69]

"shutik"I've ordered some of Nielsen swaged ammo to test in Pulsar.
Got 21,23,27,28 grains sampler pack.
Will shoot groups at 100 yards.

Looking forward to seeing the results...

 

[shutik]

Got my sample of cast bullets today and took few shots in the rain with slight wind, this is 60 yards so far with 23 grains.

 

[fe7565]

"Macros"They were onto something with the Airwolf MVT. That thing was adjustable in the extreme - up there with the crown and impact (although lower max power and no caliber change of course), but easier, could be done on the fly and was available many years earlier. Just input the exact FPS you wanted on the side screen, fire three or four calibration shots with your pellet of choice and off you went. Chrony was seriously precise and ensured a tiny extreme spread-mine was 5 over over 140 shots in .22. One of my biggest airgun regrets is selling mine to ‘get something new’. Dumbest move I ever made.
Pity the chrony wire was so easy to break, causing people to whine and whine, and Daystate to ditch the tech rather than idiot proof it... sigh. No idea why. Probably a decision made by their accountants and actuaries. Wish they’d bring it back! 
Of course now they can sell a stupid little tuning computer instead...

I still have my .22 MVT with a working chrony. The chorny used to get messed up because people with little if any sense were messing with it, and they accidentally yanked out the tiny wires connecting it inside the shroud from the CPU board. A guy in South Africa bought up a bunch of these messed up MVTs and fixed them for himself and his wife.

Because of the velocity setting/feedback feature, my MVT will be the last gun I ever sell, albeit it cost me a lot when I had to "upgrade" and reprogram the factory board a few years ago because it "forgot" the velocity settings. It was a rip off. Never again...

I saw the photo of the official Daystate programmer posted by Michael. It was (until now) a closely held Daystate "super secret". I heard of only a couple of them getting into private hands a few years ago. With European paranoia and nanny-state mentality Daystate is/was worried they would be held liable if someone uses the programmer to bump up the velocity fractionally over the UK limits (to FAC). I suspect that the programmer itself has about $20 of parts and it's noting more than a PIC or other programmable chip-burner, not unlike AVR-ISP, or the ones on the Arduino platform.

I bought for my Airwolf an extreme version heliboard a year ago (it uses an Arduino Mini Pro). But did not install it yet because I would lose the MVT's chrono function and the rifle would just become an MCT. The board maker said that he was looking into trying to incorporate the chrony but never got around doing it. If I had his source code, I may be able to play with it. However, I think that based on all the other parameters already given (pellet weight, power curve, etc) , one should be able determine the actual pellet velocity to a very close degree to the actual speed just from the board's settings.