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My point exactly. The poster in question lists his location and "London" and was ragging us "Yanks" for hoarding the RWs.
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this is the kind of battery the red wolf takes.. very interesting indeed the li pro batterys are
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osfgkFyq7lA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osfgkFyq7lA
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AA: gun comes with nice manual on the gun.
NONE for programmer. Nothing online except for video above.
I Just posted some results on the Video thread.
Charlie,
NONE for programmer. Nothing online except for video above.
I Just posted some results on the Video thread.
Charlie,
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AA It is the one Michael Posted.
http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/how-to-program-a-daystate-electronic-airgun-video
http://www.airgunnation.com/topic/how-to-program-a-daystate-electronic-airgun-video
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I have both and love each one. I only use the high power setting with 10.3 grain pellets and the red wolf shoots slightly better than the Wolverine R and the wolf is quieter but it has a Donnyfl moderator which quiets better than the Huggett on the Wolverine. The wolf is costly to program because of the $400 programmmer. The Wolverine was shooting too fast and it was a simple job to remove the stock, bleed the air from the bottle, then remove the regulator, adjust slightly cw to slow and reassemble. I like the Wolf better but I still worry about the electronics, although I had another older Wolf and a MK4, both electronic and were trouble free.
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thanks for that so what one is more quiet on high power with both moderators removed? this is an important factor for me and would like to know thanks.
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I find it so hard choosing between the red wolf and the wolveriene.. been reading a week now and still cant decide..
and I seem to be likeing the wooden stock more than the laminate! but I see most of you people choose the laminate!
any of you have a hard time choosing between the wood and laminate?
and I seem to be likeing the wooden stock more than the laminate! but I see most of you people choose the laminate!
any of you have a hard time choosing between the wood and laminate?
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Both of mine are Walnut, did it for lightness. Without moderators the Red Wolf is quieter than the Wolverine R on high power.
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I posted this on the Daystate web site and now that there is a thread here centered on the Red Wolf and Wolverine, I will throw it out here too.
The Red Wolf is making quite a splash in the Daystate community and it seems the Wolverine "R" not as much. The Wolverine line has been around a while and gone through a number of minor changes with the side lever "R' version being the biggest of them all. The Red Wolf is in a class of its own.
I bought the Wolverine "R" in 177 to match all the other air guns I have. I am comfortable with the 177 platform and really don't need the larger caliber size.
I have a friend who has a "devil may care" attitude when it comes to factory warranties. He also got a new Wolverine R and no matter how much he tried, he could not get the trigger to his liking. It was too heavy for him.
I was at his abode when he decided to do something about it. He took off the stock and without removing the trigger from the receiver, he was able to remove all the guts out of the trigger. He took 1000 and 2000 grit wet and dry sandpaper and polished all the rubbing parts to a gloss shine.
Both of us took a hard look at what makes that trigger fly and realized there are two springs in the rear of the trigger housing that work against each other on opposite sides of the internal bar that the trigger pushes against to release the sear. One spring holds the bar in place while the other pushes it in the trip direction. The "trip" spring fits around the adjustment screw for the first stage take up. The more take up that is dialed in, the more pressure the spring puts on the sear bar in the trip direction as the trigger is moved rearward. The problem is, that same spring also pushes the trigger in the forward direction, thus opposing a lighter trigger pull. When we changed this take up spring to a slightly stronger one, although it made the trigger much nicer, the gun became unstable and would often fire on its own.
We then went in the other direction and found a softer spring yielded an equally good trigger pull. The new spring was no longer pushing the trigger forward as hard. It appears that polishing the moving parts was the main ingredient in getting that trigger to his liking and not so much the assistance that the take up screw spring gave in tripping the sear bar.
The screw that is supposed to be the trigger weight screw (at the front of the trigger housing) seems more to be an adjustment for the position of the sear. As it gets turned in (clockwise), it reduces the area of sear contact. That is why, in the manual, it states, "if the screw is turned in too far, the gun will not cock." You go beyond the sear engagement area by turning it too far in. Keeping the sear at the extreme edge of contact is a dangerous condition.
So after adjusting the sear engagement to more of a locked in position, installing a softer take up spring and polishing the internals to a gloss shine, he banged the gun in many directions and it did not discharge, proving the trigger was safe.
The lighter trigger tightened up his groups considerably allowing the gun to be what it is, a solid straight shooter.
The Red Wolf is making quite a splash in the Daystate community and it seems the Wolverine "R" not as much. The Wolverine line has been around a while and gone through a number of minor changes with the side lever "R' version being the biggest of them all. The Red Wolf is in a class of its own.
I bought the Wolverine "R" in 177 to match all the other air guns I have. I am comfortable with the 177 platform and really don't need the larger caliber size.
I have a friend who has a "devil may care" attitude when it comes to factory warranties. He also got a new Wolverine R and no matter how much he tried, he could not get the trigger to his liking. It was too heavy for him.
I was at his abode when he decided to do something about it. He took off the stock and without removing the trigger from the receiver, he was able to remove all the guts out of the trigger. He took 1000 and 2000 grit wet and dry sandpaper and polished all the rubbing parts to a gloss shine.
Both of us took a hard look at what makes that trigger fly and realized there are two springs in the rear of the trigger housing that work against each other on opposite sides of the internal bar that the trigger pushes against to release the sear. One spring holds the bar in place while the other pushes it in the trip direction. The "trip" spring fits around the adjustment screw for the first stage take up. The more take up that is dialed in, the more pressure the spring puts on the sear bar in the trip direction as the trigger is moved rearward. The problem is, that same spring also pushes the trigger in the forward direction, thus opposing a lighter trigger pull. When we changed this take up spring to a slightly stronger one, although it made the trigger much nicer, the gun became unstable and would often fire on its own.
We then went in the other direction and found a softer spring yielded an equally good trigger pull. The new spring was no longer pushing the trigger forward as hard. It appears that polishing the moving parts was the main ingredient in getting that trigger to his liking and not so much the assistance that the take up screw spring gave in tripping the sear bar.
The screw that is supposed to be the trigger weight screw (at the front of the trigger housing) seems more to be an adjustment for the position of the sear. As it gets turned in (clockwise), it reduces the area of sear contact. That is why, in the manual, it states, "if the screw is turned in too far, the gun will not cock." You go beyond the sear engagement area by turning it too far in. Keeping the sear at the extreme edge of contact is a dangerous condition.
So after adjusting the sear engagement to more of a locked in position, installing a softer take up spring and polishing the internals to a gloss shine, he banged the gun in many directions and it did not discharge, proving the trigger was safe.
The lighter trigger tightened up his groups considerably allowing the gun to be what it is, a solid straight shooter.
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great write up on the trigger... the air wolf im using was amazing out the box.. and still is.. its that good
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Every now and then an airgun manufacturer will develop a new rifle that changes the trajectory of the entire industry. The marketplace has recently been privileged to a number of very exciting models with features and designs that have definitely moved the needle on what defines an exciting airgun. Enter the next generation and new airgun benchmark the Daystate Red Wolf. The Red Wolf and Red Wolf HP are the Formula One of air rifles with computer and state of the art MCT firing systems. Each Red Wolf has three individual programed energy and velocity settings that can be selected by the shooter in seconds. The shooter can further tune the rifle with an optional Daystate programmer with in the rifles limits. This feature is not for the faint of heart as it allows each power level program to be manipulated to achieve the very best speed for a given pellet out of each individual rifle. Daystate has thoughtfully included the default program if the user wants to return to the factory settings.
The Red Wolfs LCD screen displays the state of air pressure in tenths of a bar, the battery state, shot count, total shots fired, magazine counter, and more. The heart of the water proof computer controlled system is the electronic MCT this firing valve takes pressure readings from the carbon fiber air supply and tells the valve how much to open in order to give the maximum shots per fill and tight shot to shot consistency for benchrest winning accuracy from the special select barrel. The 17 inch Lothar-Walther barrel has been selected for the standard rifle to provide the best down range accuracy at the power levels the rifle provides. The HP version is fitted with a special designed polygonal Lothar-Walther barrel that delivers amazing accuracy with the heaviest pellets and solids for extreme use and long range hunting. The battery to power the unit is conveniently stored in the easy to access grip area and it will provide thousands before a recharge is required. There is no finer trigger on a sporting air rifle than the fully tune-able match grade unit on the Red wolf. The trigger can be set to break on a breath or set for sporting applications as needed. The action of the Red Wolf is a left or right hand reversible super glide side-lever that requires almost no effort. The action is fast and positive for quick follow up shots or arthritic hands. The Red Wolf sports a improved 10 shot magazine and carbon fiber shroud system to reduce report. All that is the Red Wolf is cradled into the finest sporting airgun stock Daystate has created. The beauty of the laminate or select walnut flows into the action to present a piece of airgun artwork. Elegance is not wasted as the stock provides cheek piece adjustments for height, left and right canting as well as butt pad up, down, left and right. The Red Wolf with two available power configurations and world class design and performance specifications will set the standard for sporting class air rifles. The luxury choice for target hunting and field use with a five year transferable warranty.
The Red Wolfs LCD screen displays the state of air pressure in tenths of a bar, the battery state, shot count, total shots fired, magazine counter, and more. The heart of the water proof computer controlled system is the electronic MCT this firing valve takes pressure readings from the carbon fiber air supply and tells the valve how much to open in order to give the maximum shots per fill and tight shot to shot consistency for benchrest winning accuracy from the special select barrel. The 17 inch Lothar-Walther barrel has been selected for the standard rifle to provide the best down range accuracy at the power levels the rifle provides. The HP version is fitted with a special designed polygonal Lothar-Walther barrel that delivers amazing accuracy with the heaviest pellets and solids for extreme use and long range hunting. The battery to power the unit is conveniently stored in the easy to access grip area and it will provide thousands before a recharge is required. There is no finer trigger on a sporting air rifle than the fully tune-able match grade unit on the Red wolf. The trigger can be set to break on a breath or set for sporting applications as needed. The action of the Red Wolf is a left or right hand reversible super glide side-lever that requires almost no effort. The action is fast and positive for quick follow up shots or arthritic hands. The Red Wolf sports a improved 10 shot magazine and carbon fiber shroud system to reduce report. All that is the Red Wolf is cradled into the finest sporting airgun stock Daystate has created. The beauty of the laminate or select walnut flows into the action to present a piece of airgun artwork. Elegance is not wasted as the stock provides cheek piece adjustments for height, left and right canting as well as butt pad up, down, left and right. The Red Wolf with two available power configurations and world class design and performance specifications will set the standard for sporting class air rifles. The luxury choice for target hunting and field use with a five year transferable warranty.
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holly hell those are some very good groups of that red wolf ken at 100 yards.. impressive indeed...im kinda get the feeling these guns are upping the bar for a field gun when it comes to accuracy
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I for one am very excited to see daystate come out with a new exciting gun that looks to be producing excellent results. This will undoubtedly push other makers to come out with there own versions. Honestly the FX impact was the last big wave maker in the air gun world. I know there has been other air rifles that are great as well but let's face it the FX impact has been controlling EBR since it came out. Competition is a good thing means more and more innovative air guns will be making appearances for other companies big and small.
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hey this vid is brand new.. hope it helps you all....very interesting times indeed for us air gunners hey..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3Y74va4TM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jG3Y74va4TM
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Hey, aa! Great thread. I'm just wondering if anyone out there has any experience putting a DonnyFL moderator on a Daystate HP Pulsar .25.
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