HW/Weihrauch Decision Time - .20 HW77K vs .22 HW77

[EquivalentDelta]

Hey all,

I’ve been kicking around this idea in my head for a few months now, thinking about what I want my next air rifle to be. I’ve narrowed down on a HW77 or K model.

On the shelf there’s a K model in .20 and a long model in .22. I cannot for the life of me decide between the two.

My ideal shooting looks like 25-100 meters. Primarily targets. Maybe a squirrel or hare if they make it too easy to resist. Planning to use a AirForce TS1 rear diopter and a globe up front. Shooting from all positions.

So the question comes down to how the .22 and .20 will compare at 100m and the offhand shooting of the long and K model.

Any words of wisdom from the HW owners out there?

Thanks everyone!

 

[shambozzie]

The question is, which one can you shoot the best. Let that be your guide. Start at 25m and keep moving the target out. Your answer will soon appear.

 

[Hold_Over]

I am not helpful...I would go for option c, the .22 in the k model

 

[beerthief]

i have a long and a K personally i like shooting the long but your OFFHand and Diopters the K might be easier ?
The shooting you describe .22 would be the choice only for the larger choice of pellet weights .

EDIT: the HW77 long in .22 would be my choice .

 

[.20calguy]

I am not helpful...I would go the .20 in the k model.

 

[ChuckHunter]

I'm partial to the .20 cal
But 100m is a serious poke for either and the .22 is going to drop off quicker than the .20!
If you can swing it buy both and do a shoot off! Lol

 

[Bear-of-Grayling]

The long barrel model, while superior for sight span, would be at a disadvantage in 22 caliber. To much “shot time” (time the pellet is in the barrel) to hold steady. And I am a 22 fan. If the price/availability for the 20 caliber pellets doesn’t bother you, then that would be my choice.

 

[EquivalentDelta]

I'm partial to the .20 cal
But 100m is a serious poke for either and the .22 is going to drop off quicker than the .20!
If you can swing it buy both and do a shoot off! Lol

Can’t swing both, as much as I would love to!

The .22 is listed for €513 new here in the EU.

The .20 would be just below $1000 (subtotal $730) by the time it’s shipped from the US and paid VAT.

 

[Mycapt65]

Be aware that you may need sight risers. The new 77 stock combs are too high for many people to use with open sights. I'd check gun fit before choosing either.
Outside of that go with 20 k

 

[beerthief]

Can’t swing both, as much as I would love to!

The .22 is listed for €513 new here in the EU.

The .20 would be just below $1000 (subtotal $730) by the time it’s shipped from the US and paid VAT.

OUCH almost 2x$ IT really comes down to "If the item makes you happy smile just looking at it ,then the money does not matter .

 

[Hateful McNasty]

Don't know how it is there for you but .22 I can walk in and buy local .. .20 not hardly. So for ammo choice and convenience .22 all the way .. lol

 

[bdzjlz]

While I love the .20, in the HW77 series, I find the long barrels to consistently be better in terms of accuracy than the K models, and I have had several of both in my hands. Currently in my stable is a 77 long in .22. With the 14.66 H&N 5.53 Gr it is a real tack driver.

 

[crowski]

The 77 .20 is on my list as well, the only cal. I’m missing. I do have them both in the 97’s and absolutely favor the .20 cal. I’ve never shot them 100 meters.
I can’t explain why but all my .20 cal. seem to have an advantage. Good luck. Crow

 

[EquivalentDelta]

.20 cal

Don't know how it is there for you but .22 I can walk in and buy local .. .20 not hardly. So for ammo choice and convenience .22 all the way .. lol

In Finland finding any ammo that isn’t Gamo is hard. JSBs can be had online, but brick and mortar is very unlikely. 10m rules the waves here. Lots of R10 match and Meisters, H&N finale etc.

I can have anything I want shipped from Germany though. Krale really is amazing.

 

[abslayer]

The question is ammo in .20 what good is this with when in Canada at the moment you can not buy .20 ammo and I thing also same problem in USA

 

[EquivalentDelta]

The 77 .20 is on my list as well, the only cal. I’m missing. I do have them both in the 97’s and absolutely favor the .20 cal. I’ve never shot them 100 meters.
I can’t explain why but all my .20 cal. seem to have an advantage. Good luck. Crow

Thanks Crow!

I bet those .20s benefit from lower production scale. You’re only making 100 of something, you pay more attention than if you’re making 100,000

 

[abslayer]

I forgot Crow owns most of the .20 ammo in Canada now LOL and he doesn't sell it

 

[SoCalAirrifles]

can’t loose either way. I like shooting the .20s but .22 is so easy to buy.

 

[zrman27500]

You had me at .20!

 

[Deerstalker]

FWIW, I have never shot a .20 but at 85 trips around the Sun the .22 seems to me that it easier to load than the .177.