Dilemma, problem or solution?

[Revin]

I currently own 3 Pcp's.
1, Impact M3 compact .25
2, Airforce Condor SS .22 & .25 barrested
3, P-Rod .22
Impact I love, shoots great
Condor, doesn't do alot for me and is for sale
P-Rod I like it but want more range out of it, so I'll probably sell it also.
Wanting a new .22 caliber gun for plinking, pesting and shooting paper /steel. Ranges 100yds or less, and planning on shooting CPHP's. Mainly thinking either a Taipan Veteran, standard or FX Wildcat compact. Probably wont buy either till i get a chance to hold 1 in person to help make up my mind. Also would be open to something cheaper.
Don't want something that will take away from my Impact and turn it into a safe queen but still want a gun that I'll be happy to grab for most anything, keep oal to about 30" with moderator if required, and not fight poi shifts, shoot minute of sparrow, and drop a pigeon at 60-70 yards.
Oh what to do?

 

[WorriedMan]

Revin,
A big fan of the .25 but decided a .22 should be included. With encouragement from Vetmx, went with the Taipan Veteran Standard, guess I'll always owe him for that. Sweetest trigger ever, shooting hole-on-hole with JSB 18.13 grains right out of the box, found the perfect .22 to join the team. WM

 

[tor47]

If your other guns are forward cocking, you might feel it being a stepback with the taipan. The taipan is more robust than the wildcat. But I think the wildcat is more pleasent to shoot. I own both a mk2 wildcat, and a taipan, and for me the wildcat is easier to shoot.

 

[madeintheuk]

I agree, rear cocking is tough, but the veteran is tank built. That being said, I’m more accurate with the wildcat. Not because it’s more accurate, but becsuse it’s ergonomics suit me better. There is also no poi issues with the wildcat compact, probably due to its shorter barrel. I think you’re right that you need to hold them both before making the right decision.

 

[Emu]

Buy this one:

 

[dizzums]

im highly confident i can pop something sparrow sized to 80 with the cayden ..i think the akela in .22 will match it after its gone through, and thats the key words .. if you want high end performance requiring pretty much zero input and skill you pull out about 20 30 big bills and plop them down ..

 

[elh0102]

I would buy the Veteran in preference to any FX offering, unless you want an older Royale, which I think is great. I have a Veteran Standard in .22, and I do not find the rear cocking to be an issue at all. I certainly don't consider it a step back in any sense. When I'm shooting from my sticks, I reach over with my left hand to cock, the rifle never leaves my shoulder. Might sound odd, but it has become absolutely intuitive. On the bench, doesn't matter, the rifle isn't going anywhere. In a field situation, I guess the cocking movement might depend on your exact position, but I don't see it as a problem. IMO, adding the linkage required for forward cocking would detract from the gun's simplicity. The Veteran is simple, robust, accurate, great trigger, and has the best anti-double loading feature out there. Just decock when time to move, cock when ready again, and the routine can be repeated without limit, it will never double load. Because of this feature, I have my trigger set light, and I never use the safety. Decocking is just as easy, and it renders the rifle truly safe, which few safeties can achieve. The Veteran is heavy, and like many bull pups, its feel is a little clubby when compared to a lighter, longer sporter style rifle, such as the Daystate Revere. If it feels good to you, I don't think you can find a better choice.

 

[JimD]

For a less expensive option I recommend a SPA P35 or a Stoeger Bullshark. They are essentially the same gun except for the stock and the shroud details. My P35-22 has twice put 3 pellets into exactly the same hole - no visible enlargement - at 25 yards. I managed to shoot a 194 with it on the 30 yard challenge. It came tuned pretty hot for CPHPs, however. It would probably shoot them but would need the regulator turned down a bit. I'm shooting H&N Baracuda Match 21 grain at 835 fps. It also shot JSB 18s well and was about 875 fps. I got my 3 P35s from Krale. I think you can get Stoegers domestically if anybody still has them in stock.

P35s are side cocking. A P15 is pretty much the same gun rear cocking. They are light (P15 is under 5 lbs, P35 is 5.2) , under 30 inches with a 450mm barrel, regulated and with a simple hair curler mod to the shroud my P35s are about 85 db. The Bullshark has different baffles and may not need the mod. It also has an end cap threaded for a moderator. I get about 70 shots on a full 250 bar fill of the 265cc air chamber with the 22 and 25 and nearly 100 on the 177.

I sight in my P35s for 40 yards to keep the mid flight rise to about .25 inch. My Prod is turned up to about 750 fps on CPHPs but the same criteria limits it to 30 yard sight in. About 800 fps is about the max I was able to get from my Prod and it would only give me one magazine of shots at that level. 66cc of air can only do so much. But it is an accurate and fun gun I still enjoy shooting.

 

[maxtrouble]

Another vote for the Veteran. Very solid, very accurate and built like a tank.

 

[tor47]

I am not a hunter, but I do like to use my guns on the bench, in adition to bring them out elsewhere to shoot them. The taipan is challenging for me to shoot on a bench. The reason being the action which is on the back of the gun is quiet heavy, that leads to the gun sinking down in to the bag when the shot is taken. To counter that somene here on the forum suggested to pull the gun downward into the bag while shooting. That, or to hold it in a firm grip thight against the sholder seems to help. But that is in my opinion not that comfortable to do in longer sessions. The wildcat although being lighter is not that heavy at the back, and doeas not have the same tendency to sink down into the bag, so it can be shot with a lighter grip. Also if you use the left hand to squeese the bag, and at the same time want to cock the gun with the same hand, you have to let go off the bag. So on the next shot it makes it harder to find the exact same position and pressure.
On the wildact which is forward cocking, it it easier to repeat the same hold over again, as you do not have to leave the hand off the bag.
The taipan is a nice gun, and I can understand if you want the ultimate thoughnes when dragging into the woods. But in the the end the OP probably has to try both to deside.

 

[BrianaGarner]

It sounds like you've got a pretty sweet collection of airguns. I totally get the dilemma of wanting something new but also not wanting to overshadow your favorite. If it were me, I'd go for something that complements your Impact rather than competes with it. But when I can't decide on something, I just toss a coin and let the destiny decide.
As for choosing between the Taipan Veteran, FX Wildcat compact, or something cheaper, maybe try flipping a coin if you can't decide. Sometimes leaving it to fate can be a fun way to make a choice.
Whatever you decide, I'm sure it'll be a great addition to your collection.

 

[JungleShooter]

I don't have the money to "collect" guns like some of us here — so I need to choose carefully.

A while back I bought a gun that does what my first PCP does — just with much more quality.

So, now I'm selling that first PCP.
No competition in the gun closet!!


➠ However, I always like to browse what's new and what might tickle my fancy.
And I found one that is VERY DIFFERENT from anything I have.
And that is the Huben GK1 pistol.

Shooting a PCP pistol "as a pistol" — offhanded at short ranges — will finally be reality.
Either with the open sights (and a 3D silencer that does not obstruct them) — or with a red dot sight — or with a laser sight.

I can still rest the gun on a bag and hit targets at 50y and more if I want/need to.

Semi-automatic — I've had nothing like that ever.


It will definitely be a new experience.....

Matthias

 

[Firewalker]

Do I dare to mention the Avenge-X?