Discovery HD 2-12X24 SFIR FFP. A little experiment.

I bought a new offering from the Discovery factory this week to do a little experiment with. And when I say little, I mean it is a little scope at 81/2" long. Discovery HD 2-12X24 SFIR FFP is a gem of a scope for the price. In the daylight it compared on par with it's next biggest brother, the Discovery HD 3-12X44 SFIR, except for the parallax adjustment. This thing parallaxes down to the advertised 5 with clarity at high magnification! At low magnification the fish eye effect was really minimal, and only noticable if moving the eye and only at the edge of the glass. It was more of a parallax effect bending out towards the edges but remaining centered on target. Side by side at dusk the win goes to the bigger 44mm aperture for light transmission when looking a couple hundred yards into the dark tree canopy, but this was well after legal hunting hours in most places and really a non-issue for me. The one place both scopes sucked at was illumination in the dark. The red light slightly blurs the reticle as it shines on the glass. But again, this is in a dark room and it can be easily seen though at dusk. This is going to be a good little hunting scope. In case you were not realizing the true difference in size, there's picture next to a full-sized scope that came off the Evol.


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I had a question from someone about getting behind the eye box. What I found as compared to a bunch of other scopes (some similar, some bigger) was that it was not bad at higher parallax, but at the lowest setting it was tighter. This was true with any scope but predictably tight with this one. It was roughly a half inch of eye/head movement from centered to off the scope's sight plane. I did not really feel that getting behind the scope was a hindrance even at close range and high magnification though.
 
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I recently tried finding a similar scope, for close range, back yard use, and I discovered that there are not many to choose from.
I can tell already, I like the reticle better than a BugBuster.
Nice find!
Yes, this reticle design is really nice. A light Christmas tree pattern underneath for quick elevation and wind holds would be ideal, but we'll see how it holds up to dialing for elevation.
 
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By any chance, do you own a Bugbuster (especially the newer 3-12 x 32 version ) to compare it to?
No Bugbuster's here, but a similar smallish scope by Vector and a Discovery, but with bigger front aperture lenses. It did get a side by side comparison to a DiscoveryOpt HD 3-12X44. The only noticable difference between the two are a bit more light transmission at dark for the bigger apertured scopes along with a bigger field of view. These differences were as expected with the smaller front lense.
 
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No Bugbuster's here, but a similar smallish scope by Vector and a Discovery, but with bigger front aperture lenses. It did get a side by side comparison to a DiscoveryOpt HD 3-12X44. The only noticable difference between the two are a bit more light transmission at dark for the bigger apertured scopes along with a bigger field of view. These differences were as expected with the smaller front lense.
I believe this scope, and the 3-12 x 32 Bugbuster, are almost identical in size.
Not sure about glass quality.
Price seems similar.
The biggest difference I see, is this one has a calibrated reticle, the illumination, and adjust down to 5 yards, vs. the BB goes down to 3 yards.
Its nice to see close-range options!
 
I believe this scope, and the 3-12 x 32 Bugbuster, are almost identical in size.
Not sure about glass quality.
Price seems similar.
The biggest difference I see, is this one has a calibrated reticle, the illumination, and adjust down to 5 yards, vs. the BB goes down to 3 yards.
Its nice to see close-range options!

By calibrated reticle do you mean FFP?

I used to have a 3-12x32 Bugbuster. My vague recollection is the reticle was true at 10x rather than full power. That & the eye box at higher powers were the main reasons I traded it away.
 
By calibrated reticle do you mean FFP?

I used to have a 3-12x32 Bugbuster. My vague recollection is the reticle was true at 10x rather than full power. That & the eye box at higher powers were the main reasons I traded it away.
The Bugbuster, and I believe all UTG/Leapers scopes are second focal plane.
On the bugbuster in particular , the reticle has mil-dots, but there are no numbers associated with each dot (No 1, 2.5, 5, 10, etc.).
Not a huge deal, especially on a close-range scope, but numbers would indeed be nice, and the Discovery scope has them.
Something like this:

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I have my eye on the big boy, and seeing as i grabbed the link it is on 20 % discount right now, i am buying it now

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I just wished Discovery scopes would return to the standard they used to have for years: 10 yard min. parallax..... 😔

I have crossed most of their scopes of my list, as they have now 25y and 20y parallax.... ☹️

Note also the conspicuous absence of any information of the minimum parallax.... — all their spec cards and website descriptions used to state the min. parallax clearly. Now, even the product photographs are taken at angles that do not reveal the minimum parallax setting.... ☹️


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I just wished Discovery scopes would return to the standard they used to have for years: 10 yard min. parallax..... 😔

I have crossed most of their scopes of my list, as they have now 25y and 20y parallax.... ☹️

Note also the conspicuous absence of any information of the minimum parallax.... — all their spec cards and website descriptions used to state the min. parallax clearly. Now, even the product photographs are taken at angles that do not reveal the minimum parallax setting.... ☹️


Matthias
I agree.
Its difficult to find scopes with a 10 yard or less parallax.
The options are few.
 
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Its difficult to find scopes with a 10 yard or less parallax.
The options are few.


Hey Alan, 😊

⬛ I would agree with your first statement — it is difficult to FIND scopes with 10 yard parallax.
Because hardly any scope seller has the parallax as a filter option! 😖
So, you have to look at every scope that fits your magnification and price range — just to check if it complies with your parallax range. 🤷🏻‍♂️



🟩 And I am happy to be able to tell you that your second statement might not be correct! 😊👍🏼👍🏼
I have gone over the specs of a thousand scopes (and then some).
And I have found many options with 10y parallax — over 230 of them. 😊👍🏼


✳️ With a healthy dose of OCD I assembled 3 Scope Specs Tables with 29 specs for each scope —
for easy side-by-side comparison.
All with 10y parallax (some 15y).
➠ Let me know if you're interested (and which magnification range).


Cheers, 😊

Matthias