I have to sharpie the helmets red for commie look. I just can’t draw weapon on an American solder..
That being said 99% of my guns are .22 or .25 and I have no issues once barrel is selected.
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Beeman Does anybody NOT not like .22 HW barrels?
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That being said 99% of my guns are .22 or .25 and I have no issues once barrel is selected.
A friend, an excellent match director and an awesome mentor. Whatever his tuning skills contribute to a gun, his mentoring contributes a hundred times. He'll offer both new and seasoned shooters advice if they ask, providing encouragement and confidence to become better and enjoy this sport. I've been at field target a few years now and continue to benefit from his councel.
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His input on this forum has always come from knowledge and experience. He is obviously a great resource.
You are lucky to have a guy like that to shoot with and learn from.
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I have to sharpie the helmets red for commie look. I just can’t draw weapon on an American solder..
That being said 99% of my guns are .22 or .25 and I have no issues once barrel is selected.
Get your figures from Amazon. They are all Russian and Chinese. No sharpie needed.
I had a bag of red and black pirates. A little larger than green army men. Soft plastic. We shot them for months. They were all twisted and deformed...like zombies. I finally threw them away but they would have lasted forever.
They make tiny glow in the dark orange dinosaurs. Best target ever. They fly 20 yards with every shot and last a hundred hits. About the size of a fingertip. You can see them well at 70 yards. I've shot $100 worth of pellets at $2 worth of those things. They finally started breaking up after 6 months of daily abuse.
For $10 Wal Mart has a big plastic jar of farm animals or dinosaurs. They break up easy but they are a barrel of fun. From Bean size to 1". You can get them at the thrift store for much less.
I got a dozen plastic iguanas about 6" long. The heads are about 3/4". I set them behind a berm with their heads poking up at 40 yards.
For 60-80 yard offhand targets I found soft rubber gorillas and dinosaurs. The pellets "pop" when they get hit. Very little damage. They catch every pellet inside the body. They get heavy and rattle with lead. We call them leadbelly. The darn things are great fun and will last forever. About $4 each at the thrift store.
Golf balls used to be my favorite target. I've had so many pellets come back at me I quit using them. Even at 60 yards you get rebounds hitting you. I shot one at 65 yards and the pellet came straight back and hit me in the cheek. So we took all the golf balls out to 150 and only shoot them with the rimfire.
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It is agreed that the JSB 13.73 .20 cal is a spectacular pellet with amazingly high BC near .040 +/- showing fantastic accuracy when in a decent barrel.
The barrel in Chris K's STEYR and my personal RAW .20 happen to BOTH be HW blanks sourced years ago from SILCO sports in the UK when we were able to export them to the USA .. that ship sadly has sailed
As to the HW .22 barrels, I've found them commonly being a tad oversize, tho some what I'll call within spec .22 HW barrels are also out there being used to great effect. The oversize barrel guns not so much requiring much pellet testing to find the harmony & acceptable accuracy. * some never really do especially in spring piston guns, as the slight choking barrel gets when pressed into breech block has a pellet once clear of the breech block squeeze trend too small for the remaining bore ahead of it.
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The barrel in Chris K's STEYR and my personal RAW .20 happen to BOTH be HW blanks sourced years ago from SILCO sports in the UK when we were able to export them to the USA .. that ship sadly has sailed
As to the HW .22 barrels, I've found them commonly being a tad oversize, tho some what I'll call within spec .22 HW barrels are also out there being used to great effect. The oversize barrel guns not so much requiring much pellet testing to find the harmony & acceptable accuracy. * some never really do especially in spring piston guns, as the slight choking barrel gets when pressed into breech block has a pellet once clear of the breech block squeeze trend too small for the remaining bore ahead of it.
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Hey R1,
I agree
,Scott (Motorhead) and Bob Stern on the GTA taught me almost everything I know about tuning Springers and PCP’s.
- Those guys didn’t get to be “GTA Man of the year“ for nothing.
They represent the "Best of the Best on the GTA and AGN", I’d buy their Airguns books if they’d only write them.
I wish Scott could tour the country and give ME some shooting tips, because the performance of my guns are top notch relative to my shooting habits.
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Here's one for you I bought a 2022 or 23 used 22 cal Field Pro. The gun never made proper power and accuracy was only typical. Last December to diagnose the problem I installed the Field Pro's barrel on my 22 caliber R1. The R1 lost 1.7-2.3 fpe depending on pellet.
I slugged the barrel and the muzzle choke was crazy tight. Hoping this was the power loss I gambled big and counter bored the ckoke out. It didn't greatly improve the energy but luckily the accuracy improved.
Today I tested the R1 again with the suspect Field Pro 22 barrel to get a fresh baseline.
An hour later with R1's previous barrel and no other changes the rifle gained between 1.2 and 1.7 fpe. Obviously there's something wrong with the Field Pro's barrel.
This isn't the first time I've had power and or accuracy deficits with Weihrauchs barrels. It just happens a bit more often with 22 caliber. Anybody want a low on power but accurate 22 Field Pro barrel?
I slugged the barrel and the muzzle choke was crazy tight. Hoping this was the power loss I gambled big and counter bored the ckoke out. It didn't greatly improve the energy but luckily the accuracy improved.
Today I tested the R1 again with the suspect Field Pro 22 barrel to get a fresh baseline.
An hour later with R1's previous barrel and no other changes the rifle gained between 1.2 and 1.7 fpe. Obviously there's something wrong with the Field Pro's barrel.
This isn't the first time I've had power and or accuracy deficits with Weihrauchs barrels. It just happens a bit more often with 22 caliber. Anybody want a low on power but accurate 22 Field Pro barrel?
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I've found them to be mostly garbage.
I have yet to have a decent one, and I've had a whole bunch built from the 80s till about 2015 when I gave up on them entirely.
And no, not only in spring guns. My HW100 in .22 wears a Lothar Walther barrel because the original was sloppy oversized with an overly tight choke. Same as every single one I've ever had.
I have yet to have a decent one, and I've had a whole bunch built from the 80s till about 2015 when I gave up on them entirely.
And no, not only in spring guns. My HW100 in .22 wears a Lothar Walther barrel because the original was sloppy oversized with an overly tight choke. Same as every single one I've ever had.
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The lighter pellets are somewhat guided. You can bend them into the target with your mind as long as the shot is close. The heavier pellets don't seem to handle corners as well as the light ones.
At 100 yards I'm shooting at a soup can. The object is to drop the pellet into the soup can. If you hit the brakes at the right time the pellet will fall right in. A heavier pellet responds to braking commands better than a light pellet. So for vertical targeting at long ranges chubby pellets are probably a better choice.
At 100 yards I'm shooting at a soup can. The object is to drop the pellet into the soup can. If you hit the brakes at the right time the pellet will fall right in. A heavier pellet responds to braking commands better than a light pellet. So for vertical targeting at long ranges chubby pellets are probably a better choice.
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I’ve NEVER shot a springer at 100 yards
but I did drop a woodchuck at 72 range finder measured. With a .25. In front of a crowd. Drank a beer acted like it was normal .. I was someone for a minute. ..
I shoot 14.66 ftt and force my guns to like them or get a new barrel. I hate jsb thin skirt blow by lead.
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Yeah, these are modern action figures.
Outlaws. And pirates. I found them on Amazon I liked them so much. Too darn expensive but they make great, durable targets. I think they are $6 for a small handful.
I get these in bags at the thrift store for cheap. Whatever has been donated. So you see a whole bunch of different figures and different types of plastics in a bag for a couple bucks. Some shatter and some resist.
Same with the larger dinosaurs and animals. Depending on the size, weight and the material they are made of dictates the range and durability. Some of those toys make fantastic pellet rifle targets that last a very long time. Others are fun while they last.
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I’ve NEVER shot a springer at 100 yards
but I did drop a woodchuck at 72 range finder measured. With a .25. In front of a crowd. Drank a beer acted like it was normal .. I was someone for a minute. ..
I shoot 14.66 ftt and force my guns to like them or get a new barrel. I hate jsb thin skirt blow by lead.
I shoot shotgun shells out to 100. I miss more than I hit but I hit regularly. I was about 50% today at 70 yards. There was some wind drift that bedeviled me and I didn't shoot farther. I figure it was an average day.
I'm not afraid to forget about my misses shooting a springer that far. By the same token I'm not bashful about bragging on the hits.
I'm not very surgical at close range and I'm not making my transitions as well. I got involved with a couple rimfires and I've been shooting them off a bench for the past few weeks. Now the springers feel strange and jumpy. I'm suddenly wet behind the ears again.
This, and the fact that I'm shooting a crappy HW .22 barrel that causes a lot of my shots to land in the dirt. Damn this crooked shooting pickaxe of an air rifle!
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I just traded for a HW100 Carbine action/barrel in .22 and its almost one hole accurate at 32 yds with 18gr JSB. I had a .177 action that I traded and it was the same. I havent shot the .22 farther then 32 yds yet due to being super windy/cold.
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Dean while that is a Weihrauch 22. Its a PCP. PCPs are totally different animals than piston guns. Best of luck with the new set up. I'm sure it'll be fine
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