Does blitz clip suppresors full auto?

[Ezana4CE]

only issue I have had 22 caliber.. it won't do full or semi auto with the heavy redesigned jsb.. works bolt action.. but standard jsb is fine and it loves the crossman premier round noze Walmart pellet at $7 tin of 500
Mark

@markhooper In which city/cities are you finding “round noze” (domed) Crosman pellets in Walmart for $7 a tin of 500?

 

[MarksmanPete]

You need to buy/make an adapter so you can screw on a suppressor. I think Donny FL makes some but they are expensive.
I've bought one but haven't tried it yet, I guess it's possible to hit the suppressor but for that to happen there has to be flex or the suppressor is too long.

https://donnyfl.net/collections/adapters/products/hatsan-blitz-1-2-x-20-adapter

You might need to increase the front barrel spring tension or lower/replace it, I've read that a suppressor might make it harder for the Blitz to cycle.
My experience with the Blitz is pretty bad but after some adjustments mine works perfectly now except that the accuracy is garbage.

If the magazine spring tension isn't high enough the probe will clip the magazine. There are guides on how to do so, one method is to drill a hole in the magazine and move the spring anchor to it to get half a rotation of more spring tension or you might just want to turn it an extra revolution.
My Blitz was lubricated using some white paste, I removed it and used a gun oil instead, this sped up the mechanism trough so had to increase magazine spring tension so new rounds would cycle faster. I have a chronograph that can measure shots per minute and if I remember correctly my Blitz fires .25 at 1200 rounds per minute.

As for your original question, I'd only worry if you were going full auto. As mentioned above you might need to increase hammer spring so more air is used if you install a suppressor. How the Blitz works is really simple, there is a rod that goes next to the barrel to the front of the rifle where a plastic air catcher is located. When the rifle is fired the air catcher is forced forwards pulling the rod with it. In the middle of the rifle there is a gear that this mechanic rotates, the gear has a toothed metal part that is forced backwards by the gears rotation, this pushes the charging handle backwards so a new round can cycle.
Really simple and really efficient when it comes to rate of fire as the rifle can fire as fast as the mechanical parts can move.

Ive had my blitz run at speeds of 1500 rpm once its broken in, It dumps 45 rounds in 1.7 seconds.

 

[MadCowCrazy2]

Ive had my blitz run at speeds of 1500 rpm once its broken in, It dumps 45 rounds in 1.7 seconds.

Once my supplier gets some guns in stock I will be receiving the new Blitz BP and a few Hicap mags. If I can get my hands on a laser cutter I intend to create some 100-1000 round magazines for it but that's a project for next year

 

[markhooper]

@markhooper In which city/cities are you finding “round noze” (domed) Crosman pellets in Walmart for $7 a tin of 500?

grants pass Oregon.. bought two trays several times.. I think it was like $45 for a tray of 6? tins of 500.. they are cheaper than 177 and they shoot as well as the jsb 18

 

[Ezana4CE]

grants pass Oregon.. bought two trays several times.. I think it was like $45 for a tray of 6? tins of 500.. they are cheaper than 177 and they shoot as well as the jsb 18

@markhooper Lucky you!! I’m going to check one I’ll pass by today. I don’t ever recall seeing the domed Crosmans there. Have you had access to them for a while or have you recently started seeing them?

As for the clipping in full auto, if you experiencing clipping, will you hear or feel it?

 

[markhooper]

Ive had my blitz run at speeds of 1500 rpm once its broken in, It dumps 45 rounds in 1.7 seconds.

I cleaned out the lube on the gears, it was full of lead dust and repacked it with the best wheel bearing grease.. shoots smooth and no magazine clipping.. good accuracy, I can hit a quarter at 50 yards either semi auto or 3-5 round bursts..
I'd really like to slow down the fire rate.. to like 700 RPM.. do you know of any adjustments? wondering if the spring on the air catcher was lighter? or please any ideas.. oh and I have the 22 caliber..
mark

 

[markhooper]

@markhooper Lucky you!! I’m going to check one I’ll pass by today. I don’t ever recall seeing the domed Crosmans there. Have you had access to them for a while or have you recently started seeing them?

As for the clipping in full auto, if you experiencing clipping, will you hear or feel it?

I don't have any suppressor, so I don't know on that.. as far as pellets it's been available for a couple years, some days they are out of stock.. I also try to get the round nose.. I prefer it over the hollow point.. better accuracy, not sure why.

 

[markhooper]

Once my supplier gets some guns in stock I will be receiving the new Blitz BP and a few Hicap mags. If I can get my hands on a laser cutter I intend to create some 100-1000 round magazines for it but that's a project for next year

so there's a blitz bullpup?? can you please send me link for it and pictures?.. is it available as a conversion stock?
I'd definitely be interested in you high capacity magazine.. like the 100 rounds.. since it needs air around 129 shots.. you might look at the SMG 22.. I just wondering if there's a way to convert it to belt fed like the SMG 22 air gun.. looks like a tommy gun with the drum below..

 

[markhooper]

@markhooper Lucky you!! I’m going to check one I’ll pass by today. I don’t ever recall seeing the domed Crosmans there. Have you had access to them for a while or have you recently started seeing them?

As for the clipping in full auto, if you experiencing clipping, will you hear or feel it?

where are you located? would be nice to talk to others.. if you don't mind. pm me.. I've got questions about ballistics and no answers.. maybe you could help me or point me to the right link so I can learn what I am wondering..
basically can a avenger X be tuned up for heavy slugs to equal the power of the gauntlet 30?
which one would be more accurate at long distance? I'd assume the 22 caliber being a smaller diameter is less resistance?
then if you took the turned up avenger and put 14 grain in.. how fast would it shoot? also barrel twist, I'm assuming that you need different twist rate for either heavy or higher speed but I don't know which or what..
I've got a american tactical Nova liberty 22 and I can shoot 160 yards in a 3" bullseye with open sights.. I go to 170 yards and it's all over, doesn't hit the 24" backer.. so I assume that it's out of power or tumbling the pellet?
very tempting to try rounds since if they tumble it won't matter .. plus I have read that the hollow back creates drag .. I have read that boat tail slugs are the best.. but I have never tried them..
used to shoot black powder rifle 36 caliber double set trigger and it was good for 200 yards for squirrels.. and I shot unpatched rounds.. so they had rifling marks ..
really just wanting to understand what can be done and what can't be done..
I haven't been able to shoot for years with a scope, plus I also will shoot running target and scopes are not great for wide angle and moving.. but I did get a link for a new open sight that I think was called truglow and it's like a reflex but no battery.. it was on a conversation with Mike vv..

 

[MadCowCrazy2]

so there's a blitz bullpup?? can you please send me link for it and pictures?.. is it available as a conversion stock?
I'd definitely be interested in you high capacity magazine.. like the 100 rounds.. since it needs air around 129 shots.. you might look at the SMG 22.. I just wondering if there's a way to convert it to belt fed like the SMG 22 air gun.. looks like a tommy gun with the drum below..

I've put a buy order for a SMG .22 in the member classifieds but was scammed by som Ukranian dude last week. Done a charge back but who know if I'll get it back.
I only have basic design concepts for the mags, it's just a fun project I intend to spend some time on next year.

Here is info on the Blitz BP - https://hatsan.com.tr/product/blitz-bp/

I have the normal Blitz and it's basically a bullpup to begin with, it just needs another stock. I wouldn't be surprised if the body is identical and there is just a rod connected to the trigger mechanism like on most bullpups.

 

[MarksmanPete]

Once my supplier gets some guns in stock I will be receiving the new Blitz BP and a few Hicap mags. If I can get my hands on a laser cutter I intend to create some 100-1000 round magazines for it but that's a project for next year

Im waiting on the bullpup to get around to us id get the 25 cal, And them mags your talking about if they function id like to try some of those out, Can just tether the bottle an hold that trigger till empty.

 

[MarksmanPete]

I cleaned out the lube on the gears, it was full of lead dust and repacked it with the best wheel bearing grease.. shoots smooth and no magazine clipping.. good accuracy, I can hit a quarter at 50 yards either semi auto or 3-5 round bursts..
I'd really like to slow down the fire rate.. to like 700 RPM.. do you know of any adjustments? wondering if the spring on the air catcher was lighter? or please any ideas.. oh and I have the 22 caliber..
mark

Running a suppressor seems to have slowed it down to around 800 rpm, I suggest you get a donny fl.

 

[markhooper]

I've put a buy order for a SMG .22 in the member classifieds but was scammed by som Ukranian dude last week. Done a charge back but who know if I'll get it back.
I only have basic design concepts for the mags, it's just a fun project I intend to spend some time on next year.

Here is info on the Blitz BP - https://hatsan.com.tr/product/blitz-bp/
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I have the normal Blitz and it's basically a bullpup to begin with, it just needs another stock. I wouldn't be surprised if the body is identical and there is just a rod connected to the trigger mechanism like on most bullpups.

would be nice if we could buy the stock and try it on our own blitz.. I've personally never handled or seen any bullpup in person.. just pictures..
I don't like the Benjamin bulldog because they don't put the linkage in for cocking lever up by the trigger.. it's clear to the back.. not as much of a deal with the blitz because it is semi auto so you don't have to cock for each shot..
I was going to buy a new SMG 22 but it is a lot less powerful than the blitz.. and I have questions about how long the belt lasts because it fires through the belt and you have gas leakage on both sides of the belt since it has no pellet probe.. wouldn't be a big deal if it was metal and possibly tolerances a little closer.. I read one guy made metal sleeves to go inside the belt out of empty 22 brass.. lots of ideas, just need some put in the works
Mark

 

[markhooper]

I've also seen a double bottle adapter and I assume that if you can get the adapter you can get a second tank.. puts them side by side..

Im waiting on the bullpup to get around to us id get the 25 cal, And them mags your talking about if they function id like to try some of those out, Can just tether the bottle an hold that trigger till empty.

 

[markhooper]

I've also seen a double bottle adapter and I assume that if you can get the adapter you can get a second tank.. puts them side by side..

also I prefer the 22 since I can get the crossman premier round nose from Walmart cheap..

 

[markhooper]

Running a suppressor seems to have slowed it down to around 800 rpm, I suggest you get a donny fl.

oh that great.. can you please tell me what suppressor you got from Donny.. also what caliber are you using.. both the blitz and Donny, because I have heard some use like a universal one that is good for 177-30.. and I would assume that it would make a difference in airflow.. I'd love 800 RPM over the 1200 RPM..
did you have to do anything else? change anything, springs, hammer spring, or any adjustments?
thank you
Mark

 

[MarksmanPete]

I've also seen a double bottle adapter and I assume that if you can get the adapter you can get a second tank.. puts them side by side..

If I ever need to shoot that much to the point Im blowing that much air I just tether to a tank, I dont think il ever go for the multiple bottle adapters as that makes the gun heavy, Extra wide good bit bit of drawbacks I wouldn't do it I just tether anytime I shoot 100+ shots.

 

[MarksmanPete]

I've also seen a double bottle adapter and I assume that if you can get the adapter you can get a second tank.. puts them side by side..

Here is a video I recorded of the fire rate with a tatsu suppresor, It does seem to hang up sometimes might have to get a different spring, I need to go to the hardware store to test out a new one.

 

[markhooper]

If I ever need to shoot that much to the point Im blowing that much air I just tether to a tank, I dont think il ever go for the multiple bottle adapters as that makes the gun heavy, Extra wide good bit bit of drawbacks I wouldn't do it I just tether anytime I shoot 100+ shots.

I don't have a tank to tether, just the Omega trail charger, so I agree with you on the double tank would be way too bulky at best.. I just stick with 120 rounds or less

 

[markhooper]

Here is a video I recorded of the fire rate with a tatsu suppresor, It does seem to hang up sometimes might have to get a different spring, I need to go to the hardware store to test out a new one.

heard it fire but totally blank screen.. maybe I didn't play it correctly..