N/A Does the difference make much of difference?

[johnwoitalla]

I am contemplating the purchase of a new .25 cal pcp. Right now, I am interested in the FX King and the Daystate Wolverine. The max ft/lbs of the King is 80 and the Daystate is 60 ft/lbs. I'm not wanting more energy for knock down power, but for a little further reach. The question is, does the difference of 20 ft/lbs make much of a difference in terms of accuracy when shooting longer distances past 100yds? I know that there are a lot of variables to consider. But in general, what has been your experience?

 

[thammer]

60fpe is a 34gr pellet right under 900fps. Not many heavier pellets than that I've seen with good quality. To do the 80fpe you're likely shooting a slug or a pellet that is probably too fast so no increase in accuracy. I like the 34gr at 940ish which is only about 65fpe but if the one can't that may sway me. I don't like running them at the max power anyway so turning down 80max to 65 in my opinion is better than maxed out at 60fpe if and only if that is the difference between set-ups. You are talking about 2 very different guns so you have that to decide as well.

 

[ChuckHunter]

Get the Black Wolf and have the best of both worlds! Lol
I have a 600mm King and it's the best FX rifle I've owned and I've had a bunch!
Super easy to tune up or down in power for a variety of projectiles! The wolverine is built like a tank but not so easy to tune.
It's pretty much shoot it as it comes.

 

[Patrick1]

inside 100-pellets
Outside 100- slugs

Depending on game……

 

[Corvid_hunter]

The King does look okay and seems to perform very well, but I would look at the Black Wolf if you want a traditional style type of air rifle.

 

[Vana2]

I have a .22 caliber Wolverine R Lite (the 30 fpe version) and like it as casual PCP, ready shoot as received from the factory.

The King is a PCP with a lot of potential as far a accuracy, power and adjustability goes. I have a .22/700 mm Panthera with the same value system and it's very consistent. The DRS also uses the same valve and I've been very pleased with the performance of my .22/600 mm Classic. Both my PCPs shot very well with their factory tunes.

The Wolverine is a very nice airgun but I don't think the design has the depth of capacity for .25 caliber at those ranges. I see it more as a .177/.22 sub-60 yard type of rifle.

For longer range shooting in .25 caliber, I'd go with the King, as it gives you more options. The high-flow valve is easily capable of handling heavy .25 projectiles.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

 

[ChuckHunter]

The King does look okay and seems to perform very well, but I would look at the Black Wolf if you want a traditional style type of air rifle.

I'll be adding the Black Wolf to the arsenal very soon myself probably the .22 in 23 inch to start with!

 

[3Crows]

I am contemplating the purchase of a new .25 cal pcp. Right now, I am interested in the FX King and the Daystate Wolverine. The max ft/lbs of the King is 80 and the Daystate is 60 ft/lbs. I'm not wanting more energy for knock down power, but for a little further reach. The question is, does the difference of 20 ft/lbs make much of a difference in terms of accuracy when shooting longer distances past 100yds? I know that there are a lot of variables to consider. But in general, what has been your experience?

Pellets just do not like to go much faster than 900 fps, give or take and with some few exceptions. Velocity caps your power for pellets. Slugs can go faster if your rifle will shoot them. Some slug rifles seem to be able to exceed 1000 fps or push a heavier slug. Thus, yes, the extra 20 fpe can make a difference in a gun that can shoot slugs and if you are so inclined. I am not, at that point, I reach for my fleet of .22 PBs.

 

[johnwoitalla]

I have a .22 caliber Wolverine R Lite (the 30 fpe version) and like it as casual PCP, ready shoot as received from the factory.

The King is a PCP with a lot of potential as far a accuracy, power and adjustability goes. I have a .22/700 mm Panthera with the same value system and it's very consistent. The DRS also uses the same valve and I've been very pleased with the performance of my .22/600 mm Classic. Both my PCPs shot very well with their factory tunes.

The Wolverine is a very nice airgun but I don't think the design has the depth of capacity for .25 caliber at those ranges. I see it more as a .177/.22 sub-60 yard type of rifle.

For longer range shooting in .25 caliber, I'd go with the King, as it gives you more options. The high-flow valve is easily capable of handling heavy .25 projectiles.

Just my 2 cents.

Cheers!

I have an Air arms s410 rated at 30fpe. It is a lazer with 16gr and 18gr JSB’s. I have found that for shots longer than about 60yds even in low winds, it’s not as accurate as I like it to be as headshots are best with these critters. I was out shooting with a couple of buddies this weekend and they were shooting the FX Impact M3 with slugs-and they were routinely hitting past 100yds, in fact they were doing everything with their pcp’s that I do with a 22lr. That convinced me to get something that can launch lead without burning powder that has greater reach than my s410. I like the looks of the Daystate with a walnut stock over the composite stock on the King. But I will take 80fpe over 60fpe if it launches slugs that can buck the wind better. These targets are from my s410.