does this exist? an adjustable scope level that does not mount to the tube?

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well........after searching and searching and searching.......and searching....

i found one :eek:

picatinny mounted level that is adjustable for cant. SCORE!

only bad thing is its 40 bucks lol

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Airgunmann said:
So what ur getting at is with the scope lined up to a plum bob and a rail level mounted to the gun the bubble wasn't lined up am I thinking correctly?
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correct.

because the scopes crosshair will be aligned to bisect the bore of the gun,
then inevitably the gun will need to be tilted ever so slightly left or right to bring the crosshairs back to level,
which in turn throws off the rail level.
 
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Smitty911 said:
Lobi,
Levels are for ensuring that you haven't canted/leaned the rifle to either side. If you do, the further out you are shooting the further off the POI and POA will be.

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I think the point is you don't have to have a level mounted to your scope full time. Use a level to square it up when you first attach your scope and you are more than good to go IMHBAO.
 
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orangeokie said:
I think the point is you don't have to have a level mounted to your scope full time
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Actually, the opposite is more generally true. There is no need (read: no use) for a level to mount a scope. Where a level comes into play is to help the shooter know he's holding the scope level before pulling the trigger.
 
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nervoustrig said:
Actually, the opposite is more generally true. There is no need (read: no use) for a level to mount a scope. Where a level comes into play is to help the shooter know he's holding the scope level before pulling the trigger.
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I get from where you are coming, but in my hunting experience it is unnecessary. Maybe bench-resters or extreme long-range shooters use them?
 
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Yes that's true, cant error is proportional to the projectile's drop so it is increasingly crucial at longer ranges. And since pellets drop quickly, cant error comes into play at much shorter distances than it does with centerfire rifles. For example the popular 18.1gr JSB pellet will have as much cant error at 100 yards as a 30-06 will have at 400 yards. Whereas at shorter distances it may not be meaningful, depending on the kind of precision you want or need. At 50 yards, a 2° cant angle will produce about 0.2" of lateral error for the same 18.1gr pellet. At 100 yards, the error grows to over 1 inch (i.e. a doubling of distance produces over 5x as much error).
 
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I have used scope levels in the past but found them unnecessary if the scope is mounted correctly.
Most cant issues are the shooter trying to correct the scope or improper rifle fit.
I've had buddies shoulder my rifles, then look at the level and comment, "see, I don't cant when I shoot."
Another aspect is the speed of the level to detect a change in level. They are not all equal.
 
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Squack said:
I have used scope levels in the past but found them unnecessary if the scope is mounted correctly.
Most cant issues are the shooter trying to correct the scope or improper rifle fit.
I've had buddies shoulder my rifles, then look at the level and comment, "see, I don't cant when I shoot."
Another aspect is the speed of the level to detect a change in level. They are not all equal.
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That is a good point about the “speed” of the level. My favorite level is actually too slow, as the liquid is so thick that it takes quite a while to actually settle. So, my perfect level search continues.
 
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I never had a full trust with a mirror method,
first of all my scopes parallax is minimum 10 meters/yards, meaning at minimum power...
at that distance with that min power centering the reticle vertical to the barrel centerline has a "rounding error".
I worked out in different way - unfortunately more painful - 3d printed out myself a tool to center the scope bell to the barrel, something similar to this. Working well, but it is finicky to start with and more steps involved. Still need to make a lot of adjustments at the range to align at both distances 20 and 100.
So, no shortcuts, if you want to make it right.
 
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