Donnie FL Threads

[recondoc]

So I am new to pcp guns and am coming from the world of conventional firearms. It was a real head scratcher to me as to how companies like Donnie FL were managing to not get into big wahala with the Feds for manufacturing Moderators. In the eyes of the feds, they would deem it a silencer if it can be fitted to a conventional firearm and even survive a single shot. I was baffled. Then I finally noticed that Donnie FL seems to use Non-Firearm thread pitches on their products. This would appear to class it as airgun compatible only since it cannot be fitted to conventional firearm threads.

Am I looking at this through the right perspective?

Not trying to be critical or anything else, just trying to understand how to avoid visits from Feds if they ever get the notion to start picking on the non-firearm crowd of airgunners.

Thanks,

Doc

 

[Keith2324]

That is indeed the correct perspective. In addition, the internals will not stand up to the "stresses" a conventional firearm will put it through. His items, as well as others, are clearly marked for airgun use only. If you (collective you), the end-user wants to manipulate that for some reason, then that risk is all yours.



Keith.

 

[Guest]

Additionally they are not designed for the thermal dynamics of a firearm, to retain and distribute heat, and so on.



If you have ever held an actual suppressor and seen inside of them, you will understand the difference in the mesh, baffles, and more. The airgunning community had been lucky in that the difference is clear, but unfortunately there are always those wanting to mess around or blur lines. I know here at AGN established contributors are the first to flag those wanting to blur lines or go outside of what is legal. Donnyfl and other LDC makers have done good jobs being within the legal parameters for airgunning, and I appreciate that and the members here willing to speak against those who post here trying to go outside of what is legal. Fortunately, there are a plethora of legal options that airgunners enjoy. It is up to us to be responsible and obey the law perfectly .

 

[Hapo]

...I thought this would be aboot how they are a bit loose...they resist cross threading well IMHO...

...never considered legal ramifications...

 

[steve-l]

Powder burner threads are 1/2 28. 5/8-24, 5/8-32 right hand and left hand. I forget the size and pitch of the metric threads but most are left hand.. DonnyFL uses mostly 1/2-20.

 

[Beezer]

Doc,

Airgun suppressors that are effective are so easy to make from hardware store components that a hard line from the Feds concerning their manufacture and use would simply have people making their own throwaway cheap suppressors. Airgun suppressors do not need the high pressure and heat resistant components that firearms require. Steel wool, felt, and even plastic peanuts used for packaging make effective suppression material for airguns, and there are more things besides that are little to nothing in cost and often found laying around as scrap materials. I have seen an effective suppressor made from an empty Coke bottle and plastic foam peanuts, both were just trash headed for the dumpster. Of course it wasn't pretty, but it suppressed the sound rather well. The owner used a laser to aim his pistol, as the sights were rendered ineffective by the large diameter Coke bottle. The large volume did most of the work. He popped bunnies in the head at night with that rig.

Actually, I have a suppressed .22LR bolt gun and I spent nothing on a tax stamp or suppressor. The secret is to shoot Aguila Sniper SubSonic ammo from a long barrelled .22LR bolt rifle. The ammo is airgun quiet and 900 FPS from my CZ 452. It reaches over 100 FPE and the 60 grain bullet tumbles on impact and really knocks things down. About the first foot of barrel is used to achieve bullet speed and the rest of the way down the barrel the gases are expanding and cooling and pressure is really low when the bullet exits, so it is very quiet. The round was developed for covert military use to take down things like guard dogs and guards without making a commotion from an ordinary .22LR bolt rifle. I gave $50 for a brick of Aguila SSS, or only 10 cents per round. Not much more expensive than shooting my .25 cal air rifle. FWIW, a Ruger 77/22 .22LR shoots this Aguila SSS very accurately as I have shot some from that rifle and it rivals my BSA Lonestar in accuracy and that 60 grain bullet weight hits far harder. This ammo is not suitable for semi-auto .22LR use. It shot like trash from my Ruger 10/22 and was much louder due to the short case and gas leakage at the breech.

Phil