Easiest to cock non-CO2, non-PCP, non-multi-pump air pistol with 600+fps

[fe7565]

Any recommendations for a stock or easy to modify air pistol?



- easiest to cock 21-lbs or less (as in the Benjamin Mark Trail II NP)

- 600 fps with lead pellets 

- if multi-pump, first pump should be 600 fps.

- no PCP or CO2. must be mechanical powerplant

- under $100 new or used



Thank you!

 

[AirNGasman]

No such thing.

 

[fe7565]

Well. there is at least one such thing: https://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Benjamin_Trail_NP_Mark_II_Air_Pistol/4329

 

[ray1377]

I would really like to see test with lead pellets before I made up my mind.

Airgun FPS ratings are usually way over inflated.

If it does do 600+ FPS it's probably with lightweight pellets.

Ray

 

[Vetmx]

I have a Benji NP pistol. Real world? It shoots a 7gr pellet 534fps.

 

[MDriskill]

Dream on, pilgrim. 

The two most powerful spring-piston handguns out there are the Diana P8 and the Beeman P1 (Weihrauch HW 45). But they don’t quite get to 600 FPS, and you won’t be finding one for a hundred bucks. I have no experience with the Diana, but the P1 is of a quality level worth saving your pennies for.

Not sure why 600 is your magic number, but it won’t do much that 550 won’t do, and these two will manage that handily. If ya gotta exceed 600 a quality light rifle is the answer.

 

[fe7565]

Thanks all. Correct on the counts pellet weight and 600+ velocity.. The NP II can do over 600fps but only with 5.25 ballistic alloy pellets.

https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2018/05/benjamin-trail-nitro-piston-mark-ii-pistol-part-2/

Was hoping there was something else out there that at least comes close to 600fps and light cocking effort.

 

[fe7565]

Vetmx....nice looking setup. What scope you have on it? What about the shoulder stock?



MDriskill...yes those would be fine, but the price. Albeit you get more quality for the money.

 

[Vetmx]

It’s a 4x AO springer scope I got from pyramid air mounted on a barrel droop base. I took the gun apart just to sniff around inside because the trigger felt so crude. While it was apart I welded a piece of conduit to the end cap. I initially just tacked it so I could find a comfortable angle. The gun didn’t shoot very well until I found the right pellet. My dad has the Ruger spring version of this gun. The gas ram gun is way smoother. Never shot his through the chronograph.

 

[AG72]

I have this in .22 http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_mod_25_supercharger.html and it have the power you want, but, it is not easy to cock, it is infact very hard to do so, i let some air out of the gaspiston so now its very nice and have good accurasy within pistolrange, its doing somewhere around 540 ft/s with jsb 15.89, and original it is supposed to be around 700

 

[Mascot1]

View attachment 45922I have a Benji NP pistol. Real world? It shoots a 7gr pellet 534fps.

Where'd you get your stock? Been wanting one for mine

 

[Vetmx]

Here.

 

[Steveoo]

You can get a 45/P1 to make 600 fps and even a tad more, but you got to know what you are doing as an expert tuner, but way above your price range even used.
A fully tuned NP 580ish all day long but again careful tuning required.
Stock OEM you can knock 50 fps off both of those figures.

 

[AirNGasman]

As taken from the original post-
- 600 fps with lead pellets

As taken from the OP's link attempting to disprove my response "No such thing" incorrect-

• Up to 650 FPS with alloy, 525 FPS with lead

How many times did you fail the law-school exam?

 

[crosman2016]

View attachment 45922I have a Benji NP pistol. Real world? It shoots a 7gr pellet 534fps.

Yup. Mine does about the same, and has some barrel droop.

 

[HenryK]

I own a DIana LP8 Magnum.....they come with a cocking assist lever shoot at 700 fps (with light pellets) but take quite a bit of hand strength to cock.

There is really no substitute for stored energy to be able to shoot fast

HK

 

[rwsmike]

About 10 yrs ago I had a webley air pistol that you could pump up to 3 times and it would do over 600 fps ...I havnt seen them around In A while but it was pretty nice .

 

[davelarson]

The only thing I can think of that comes close to what you want would be the Zoraki three pump pistol.
Also known as the Webley Alecto.
They come in .177 and .22 and on three pumps they hit hard.
I got after market barrels for mine from a
guy in the UK that make a bit more power because of length and they are very accurate too.
They are quite loud without a moderator and extremely quiet with one.
Still available a couple times a year it seems from Max armory.

 

[rwsmike]

That webley is the one I had ...very powerful but I forgot if it was hard to pump.

 

[Hateful McNasty]

I have this in .22 http://www.hatsan.com.tr/en_mod_25_supercharger.html and it have the power you want, but, it is not easy to cock, it is infact very hard to do so, i let some air out of the gaspiston so now its very nice and have good accurasy within pistolrange, its doing somewhere around 540 ft/s with jsb 15.89, and original it is supposed to be around 700

I got the original non QE in .177 cant complain.. matter of fact it kinda exceeded my opinion and expectations of it. 10m to 50y. Does fine . Not trophy winning or championship but ..... Surprising..

I got it 2ed hand and the cocking extension thing was lost , but using a rag to cushion the palm of my hand I cock it easy and alot .. its funny guys claim a gun is hard to cock bit just d jave just that gun and its not . Like how weak are you ?...lol. Maybe got a medical issue , old broken and frail, or somthing i understand .

anyway its been a fun enjoyable pistol , but cant vouch for the newer QE model.

Just to add on this vortex ram it's pressure adjustable with a probe and hand pump.. dont know in the new qe ones are as well.