EDgun Edgun Leshiy 2
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You, my friend, are a freakin' rebel. Quit your whining and cough up the $100 for the nozzles you cheap bastard!
I know, I know...but after you tell me #3 and a screw is most efficient for a .30/350...I won't need to do that....I hope...that is, if I even have a #3....
If it really is that simple, life would be awesome.
There are many examples of “tuning” threads where people share their transfer port setting, reg pressure, HST setting, valve return setting, valve stop setting... with their gun / their ammo... The results are seldom repeatable across multiple guns using the exact same set-up parameters. I would love to be able to run a DOE and come up with a regression model that would work for the various combinations of caliber, barrel, barrel length, reg pressure, nozzle configuration, chosen ammo, desired speed or energy... I am just not convinced things will work out that way. They certainly have not on other platforms. What we can do is share our results candidly and learn from ED and distributors as they share fundamental information.
I said I am a 5%er, but what I really want is to set up a gun to what I consider optimum for me. I get that it is not required at all. For me it is part of the hobby and what I enjoy. Then I just want to shoot it.
I really appreciate the forum members sharing their experiences as well as ED and Brian weighing in from time to time.
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based off input here are some more facts about my leak from last week.
A couple of points.
When I switched to the 300 cc bottle I did the first bleed the screw was never removed, and I followed Francisco’s instructions to the letter. After instillation of the 300 cc bottle the gun was left over night then I discovered I didn’t have air pressure the next morning. So I pressurized the air cylinder and found the leak at the bleed screw then thought to try some silicon grease. I backed the screw out maybe a 1/4 of the way put some grease and Bang problem solved. Note: The bleed screw was never more than 1/4 to 1/3 way backed out the first time I depressurized the air cylinder.
Last week after the oil snaffooo I depressurized again, cleaned what I could get to throughly and then put back on the original cylinder, pressurized the cylinder, leak check and thus leak that wouldn’t stop. Only after the leak didn’t stop did I think to fully remove the bleed screw from the gun. I am not the brightest person in the room, but I do NOT remember seeing anything go bounce out of the gun or a ball bearing come out after the screw was fully removed. In fact I don’t remember any pressure behind the screw at all when i think about it now.
Could it be me was failed to be installed to begin with and I got lucky the first time stopping the leak with some silicon grease?
And where now to find a spring to get the Leshiy 2 back up and running. Would the spring be the same size as the one on my Impact power wheel? If so, When I am in the USA next week I can track down a spring to replace the one on the Impact.
A couple of points.
When I switched to the 300 cc bottle I did the first bleed the screw was never removed, and I followed Francisco’s instructions to the letter. After instillation of the 300 cc bottle the gun was left over night then I discovered I didn’t have air pressure the next morning. So I pressurized the air cylinder and found the leak at the bleed screw then thought to try some silicon grease. I backed the screw out maybe a 1/4 of the way put some grease and Bang problem solved. Note: The bleed screw was never more than 1/4 to 1/3 way backed out the first time I depressurized the air cylinder.
Last week after the oil snaffooo I depressurized again, cleaned what I could get to throughly and then put back on the original cylinder, pressurized the cylinder, leak check and thus leak that wouldn’t stop. Only after the leak didn’t stop did I think to fully remove the bleed screw from the gun. I am not the brightest person in the room, but I do NOT remember seeing anything go bounce out of the gun or a ball bearing come out after the screw was fully removed. In fact I don’t remember any pressure behind the screw at all when i think about it now.
Could it be me was failed to be installed to begin with and I got lucky the first time stopping the leak with some silicon grease?
And where now to find a spring to get the Leshiy 2 back up and running. Would the spring be the same size as the one on my Impact power wheel? If so, When I am in the USA next week I can track down a spring to replace the one on the Impact.
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@jwilson last week I asked about how to stop the leak screw from leaking. It was posted that behind the bleed screw is a ball bearing and spring, and I must have lost the ball bearing because the leak won’t stop. Now I guess spring too, maybe.
Okay I maybe be going insane, but I SWEAR Francisco had a longer video showing in detail how to depressurize the cylinder, with a warning about not taking the screw out. Also, he said in the video let it bleed naturally and slowly, but I have depressurized as Francisco instructed in the video. Maybe he replaced that video with a shorter one, but I do know what is there now is not the one I originally saw.
I dont’ need the gun right now, but by next week would be nice.
Okay I maybe be going insane, but I SWEAR Francisco had a longer video showing in detail how to depressurize the cylinder, with a warning about not taking the screw out. Also, he said in the video let it bleed naturally and slowly, but I have depressurized as Francisco instructed in the video. Maybe he replaced that video with a shorter one, but I do know what is there now is not the one I originally saw.
I dont’ need the gun right now, but by next week would be nice.
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YES!!!! Thank you. Mind is also on planning trip to USA and hours of phone calls today for it.
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OKAY!!!! Now the plot thickens.
Alright, here is what I have just now discovered. The ball bearing was never lost, it was stuck down in the hole below the bleed screw. I thought I saw something shinny in there so i did a full pressurization and after doing a quicker at end depressurization the original ball bearing out of the hole. I replaced the ball bearing then repressurized and still a leak. So it must be the bleed screw itself and as was originally suggested.
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OKAY!!!! Now the plot thickens.
Alright, here is what I have just now discovered. The ball bearing was never lost, it was stuck down in the hole below the bleed screw. I thought I saw something shinny in there so i did a full pressurization and after doing a quicker at end depressurization the original ball bearing out of the hole. I replaced the ball bearing then repressurized and still a leak. So it must be the bleed screw itself and as was originally suggested.
If it's anything like the Classic Leshiy it could just be that where the ball seats isn't flush with the ball. Try cleaning out that area & try again.
I ended up putting a small chunk of O-ring between the ball & the set screw to stop my leak.
I tried the brass rod, ball & hammer repair but just couldn't bring myself to be aggressive enough to seat the ball & re-shape that seat area.
By the way, are you saying the Impact has a tiny screw in its power wheel? I'm trying to source a tiny spring for my Classic Leshiy.
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What do you need the Leshiy Spring for? Are you the one who was looking for a spring and ball for the air port cover on the Classic in a different thread? If so - have you tried a retractable pen spring - should fit perfect IIRC.
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OKAY!!!! Now the plot thickens.
Alright, here is what I have just now discovered. The ball bearing was never lost, it was stuck down in the hole below the bleed screw. I thought I saw something shinny in there so i did a full pressurization and after doing a quicker at end depressurization the original ball bearing out of the hole. I replaced the ball bearing then repressurized and still a leak. So it must be the bleed screw itself and as was originally suggested.
So based on this is it possible your bleed hole is too big for the ball? Maybe try a 3.5mm ball? Or, try wrapping the 3mm ball in some PTFE thread tape and see if that helps.
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@CTshooter, I guess i didn’t need a spring I don’t know something was mentioned about a spring. However, I have a 3mm ball bearing and bleed screw seated properly. Again, I have had this leak issue since the first time I depresurized the gun to put on the 300 cc bottle.
@scouty I will try your fix in the morning...bed time now for bonzo
@scouty I will try your fix in the morning...bed time now for bonzo
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All I see is the 3mm ball bearing and bleed screw. No spring.
If you guys take a look at Part 34 maybe you can help me figure out what it is for. It looks like it just covers an open hole - it doesn't seal anything, the space behind it is not pressurized, I just can't figure out it's purpose unless it is needed as a hole to install other components through.
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Dude - does the machined angled edge on yours really look that chewed up? Mine is perfectly smooth. I think there is more to this than meets the eye and since the ball was banged in there apparently I would contact Fransisco for a swap replacement. Always wondered how you got your L2 so quickly - things are starting to become more obvious.
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@ctshooter I am missing what you are getting at, other than I have gotten a poorly made part, which I might have to “coat hanger” for a temporary jimmy-rig get it to work.
Here are some photos without soap water bubbles.
Can you please specific point out what you are talking about? The machining seems fine, and other than the leak the gun is operating for the most part flawlessly. But right now because of the bleed screw issue the gun won’t hold air.
Here are some photos without soap water bubbles.
Can you please specific point out what you are talking about? The machining seems fine, and other than the leak the gun is operating for the most part flawlessly. But right now because of the bleed screw issue the gun won’t hold air.
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