EDgun Edgun Leshiy 2
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Well, I'm glad I got the original L2 pistol grip which is more vertical. I like it. If they offer the new pistol grips for sale, I'll most likely pick one up to try it.
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Where are the more detailed schematics located at like above? Went through all 92 pages yesterday to no avail thinking a saw a link at some point. Edgun West I could only find the one of the major components.
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Thanks, found them now. The multiple pages weren’t populating on my phone. Works on desktop though.
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Hello fellow Airgunners,
Long time Leshiy 2 lurker, first time poster here...
My L2 has exhibited some very strange behaviour today..ho-hum!
Coincidentally, it is regarding the magazine not indexing as well, however I have checked the plastic parts within the R2D2 hump and all seems fine there.
I was stalking a part of my land trying out the .25 Cal 33.95 JSB's to assess if they would be a better fit compared to the 25.39's that I have been using so far.
Shot a couple mags of the 33.95's, but decided it was far too cold for pellet group testing so after spotting some grey squirrels, I reloaded with the 25.39's and fired a few shots up into the trees at the buggers successfully getting 2 of the little critters...all was well until I took a few more shots and noticed it didnt index the next shot all of a sudden.
As there have been a few reports of the accuracy being affected by the pin/lever that holds everything in line when closed, I proceeded to open the breach.
To my surprise it didnt budge!
After a bit of confused fettling, I rotated the magazine clockwise a couple of times and was able to release it with the lever.
The lever was able to move the entire time, so it was snagging on something in between the breach and magazine.
On top of all this, I was not getting the semi auto function either. There was all of a sudden more travel to the trigger with safety in the fire position.
Knowing the gun well enough at this stage after a few months of ownership, I knew the trigger blade wasn't aligned with the valve pin (again), and it felt as though I had the safety on.
I have been messing around with it for the past few hours, getting somewhere every now and then, but then things just arent making sense. Why the sudden failure??
Sure its cold out in the snow today, but its designed in Russia!
What I have noticed so far whilst pulling my hair out:
Valve pin seems slightly sloppy with a bit of side to side movement. Is this normal?
It also moves a bit towards you if you touch it gently with a very lightly magnetised allen wrench/key. I am being very careful here as the gun is charged with air so not pushing it inwards. Puck is removed for safety.
The trigger blade seems to jump to the right of valve pin after most shots all of a sudden, (all of them until I started to mess with my trigger spring, I made an improvement, but it is not reliably firing every time. Sometimes putting it in safe and back to fire will allow a shot to go off. I have a suspicion that the blade is not being held closely to the left side enough so it hops off the valve pin. It as if the valve pin has extended outwards a bit somehow..is this even possible?
I have adjusted the trigger grub screw until I can no longer get the the tigger to move forward any more, same result, not clearing the valve pin for next shot, but rather settling to the right of it when looking from above down into breach.
I have taken the magazine and puck out and with a flashlight looking down into the breach, I can se the trigger blade go off to the right after a shot and not reset in front of the valve pin.
Ive looked inside R2D2, seems fine. Adjusted trigger spring in order to get semi auto back, it improved, but still not firing every time.
Auto indexing has remained defective and it will not rotate the magazine whatsoever.
The guns breach seems to be locked closed despite using lever to open and the locking pin raises. Once I rotate the magazine clockwise, I can open it again (I hear a slight click inside the breach, possibly the trigger blade.
Interestingly, if I rotate the magazine clockwise to enable it to open the breach, after confirming it will open. If I close the breach and rotate anti clockwise it will lock again until I rotate the mag clockwise again...weird!
I have adjusted the grub screw on top of magazine, the one with the spring and steel ball for tension just mentioned by Ed for over rotating the magazine. Didnt cure it.
I am guessing the 2 issues are related as they both happened at the same time for no apparent reason.
My gun came with a dodgy trigger spring so the safety was not working every time, and sometimes it would not fire, similar to above. I was advised to stretch the spring via video instructions, which I did but it was overstretched and ended up not working at all so I found a spring that made it operate again for the last few months, and upon inspection all seemed as it was so unsure if it is that, but I did manage to fit yet another new spring which reset the trigger blade better and had better tension. I got semi auto firing back 80% of the time, but the magazine didnt rotate. It still snags on something.
Apologies this post is so long and hope its easy enough to understand.
Oh yes, one last thing. Does the trigger guard in your gun scratch up the bottom of the magazine roller bearing mechanism? I have noticed that mine is getting a but scuffed on the underside of the little black lever that has the roller bearing on it.
I could also swear Im feeling more air blow back towards me all of a sudden, not 100% sure, but Im kind of sure...I think!?
Frustrated with my expensive paperweight (again), please help!
Long time Leshiy 2 lurker, first time poster here...
My L2 has exhibited some very strange behaviour today..ho-hum!
Coincidentally, it is regarding the magazine not indexing as well, however I have checked the plastic parts within the R2D2 hump and all seems fine there.
I was stalking a part of my land trying out the .25 Cal 33.95 JSB's to assess if they would be a better fit compared to the 25.39's that I have been using so far.
Shot a couple mags of the 33.95's, but decided it was far too cold for pellet group testing so after spotting some grey squirrels, I reloaded with the 25.39's and fired a few shots up into the trees at the buggers successfully getting 2 of the little critters...all was well until I took a few more shots and noticed it didnt index the next shot all of a sudden.
As there have been a few reports of the accuracy being affected by the pin/lever that holds everything in line when closed, I proceeded to open the breach.
To my surprise it didnt budge!
After a bit of confused fettling, I rotated the magazine clockwise a couple of times and was able to release it with the lever.
The lever was able to move the entire time, so it was snagging on something in between the breach and magazine.
On top of all this, I was not getting the semi auto function either. There was all of a sudden more travel to the trigger with safety in the fire position.
Knowing the gun well enough at this stage after a few months of ownership, I knew the trigger blade wasn't aligned with the valve pin (again), and it felt as though I had the safety on.
I have been messing around with it for the past few hours, getting somewhere every now and then, but then things just arent making sense. Why the sudden failure??
Sure its cold out in the snow today, but its designed in Russia!
What I have noticed so far whilst pulling my hair out:
Valve pin seems slightly sloppy with a bit of side to side movement. Is this normal?
It also moves a bit towards you if you touch it gently with a very lightly magnetised allen wrench/key. I am being very careful here as the gun is charged with air so not pushing it inwards. Puck is removed for safety.
The trigger blade seems to jump to the right of valve pin after most shots all of a sudden, (all of them until I started to mess with my trigger spring, I made an improvement, but it is not reliably firing every time. Sometimes putting it in safe and back to fire will allow a shot to go off. I have a suspicion that the blade is not being held closely to the left side enough so it hops off the valve pin. It as if the valve pin has extended outwards a bit somehow..is this even possible?
I have adjusted the trigger grub screw until I can no longer get the the tigger to move forward any more, same result, not clearing the valve pin for next shot, but rather settling to the right of it when looking from above down into breach.
I have taken the magazine and puck out and with a flashlight looking down into the breach, I can se the trigger blade go off to the right after a shot and not reset in front of the valve pin.
Ive looked inside R2D2, seems fine. Adjusted trigger spring in order to get semi auto back, it improved, but still not firing every time.
Auto indexing has remained defective and it will not rotate the magazine whatsoever.
The guns breach seems to be locked closed despite using lever to open and the locking pin raises. Once I rotate the magazine clockwise, I can open it again (I hear a slight click inside the breach, possibly the trigger blade.
Interestingly, if I rotate the magazine clockwise to enable it to open the breach, after confirming it will open. If I close the breach and rotate anti clockwise it will lock again until I rotate the mag clockwise again...weird!
I have adjusted the grub screw on top of magazine, the one with the spring and steel ball for tension just mentioned by Ed for over rotating the magazine. Didnt cure it.
I am guessing the 2 issues are related as they both happened at the same time for no apparent reason.
My gun came with a dodgy trigger spring so the safety was not working every time, and sometimes it would not fire, similar to above. I was advised to stretch the spring via video instructions, which I did but it was overstretched and ended up not working at all so I found a spring that made it operate again for the last few months, and upon inspection all seemed as it was so unsure if it is that, but I did manage to fit yet another new spring which reset the trigger blade better and had better tension. I got semi auto firing back 80% of the time, but the magazine didnt rotate. It still snags on something.
Apologies this post is so long and hope its easy enough to understand.
Oh yes, one last thing. Does the trigger guard in your gun scratch up the bottom of the magazine roller bearing mechanism? I have noticed that mine is getting a but scuffed on the underside of the little black lever that has the roller bearing on it.
I could also swear Im feeling more air blow back towards me all of a sudden, not 100% sure, but Im kind of sure...I think!?
Frustrated with my expensive paperweight (again), please help!
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Does anybody know where I can get a new genuine replacement trigger spring for the Leshiy 2, my dealer never got back to me about a replacement as he said they weren't available when I had my defective safety/not firing issue when I received it, however new guns are being shipped out..very frustrating!
I'm not convinced the spring is the only issue here, my diy replacement has been fine since mid December, but the trigger tension is not great with the amazon special that I made do with...
I'm not convinced the spring is the only issue here, my diy replacement has been fine since mid December, but the trigger tension is not great with the amazon special that I made do with...
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Just a bit of an update... it seems that the trigger blade is not resetting into the correct position in front of valve pin in order to take another shot due to the magazine not rotating properly.
It seems to rotate a tiny bit, at best 1/4 to 1/2 way so the trigger blade is pushed down by the magazine "hump" where the pellets are inserted.
If I rotate the magazine after the 1st shot into the correct position, it allows me to take another shot, but I can only rotate it 2-3 times max and then the magazine seems to lock up.
Hopefully this narrows it down, but I dont see any issues with the plastic parts in R2D2...
Any other areas of adjustment/failure for the indexing?
This seems to be the cause of both these issues.
It seems to rotate a tiny bit, at best 1/4 to 1/2 way so the trigger blade is pushed down by the magazine "hump" where the pellets are inserted.
If I rotate the magazine after the 1st shot into the correct position, it allows me to take another shot, but I can only rotate it 2-3 times max and then the magazine seems to lock up.
Hopefully this narrows it down, but I dont see any issues with the plastic parts in R2D2...
Any other areas of adjustment/failure for the indexing?
This seems to be the cause of both these issues.
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@comtruise, and others. When I was hunting with my Leshiy 2 .177/350 mm in Idaho a couple of weeks ago the air temperature was around 20 F / - 7 C without the wind chill real feel was low teens F / sub -10 C. With the former temps the magazine never failed to rotate.
Honestly, I haven’t had any real issues with the gun other than it coming shooting 960-980 fps for JSB 10.34 gr JSBs, Polymags were over a 1000 fps. I have adjusted the regulator to back that off.
Based off the recent posts with the rotation it seems new, I got my gun in November sub 200 serial number. So maybe the issue is a later batch issue. Or am I off saying this? Some where a part got maybe less quality part got replaced do to lack of supply of the intended.
Honestly, I haven’t had any real issues with the gun other than it coming shooting 960-980 fps for JSB 10.34 gr JSBs, Polymags were over a 1000 fps. I have adjusted the regulator to back that off.
Based off the recent posts with the rotation it seems new, I got my gun in November sub 200 serial number. So maybe the issue is a later batch issue. Or am I off saying this? Some where a part got maybe less quality part got replaced do to lack of supply of the intended.
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@Blackpaw thanks for your response.
I received mine in November, it has a higher serial number in the 1000's, but was issued before the second batch was sent out..Ed confirmed that the serial numbers do not match the order in which they were pre-ordered in one of his videos so I doubt its that.
For reference my plastic indexing part in the R2D2 hump is black.
It has all of a sudden just stopped rotating fully, only rotates approx half way if at all sometimes since today and I have fired several tins of .25 cal and .30 cal through it without issue until today and I have looked after it well.
I believe this is the cause of the trigger blade not lining up and the breach getting "jammed" until I rotate it clockwise so that it is in line with barrel.
The plot thickens..I was hoping for a reliable gun for this kind of money, but I have had a few gripes and my safety was not working 100% when I got it due to the spring being too tight. Stretching it made it unusable as per dealer instructions, so I found a temporary replacement and it has worked perfectly fine so far, although it could have a slightly higher spring rate.
All I did differently today was fit a water filter cylinder with orange color indicating silica gel in it to my compressor intake to dry the air as my condensation valve used to throw quite a bit of moisture out when filling, immediately after fitting my diy air dryer, it no longer spits out water at all..cant be a bad thing!
The only other thing I did differently today is try our x16 shots of the .25 cal 33.95 grain JSB pellets, then shortly after I only managed to get through a mag and a half approx before the failure.
Sure its cold out, but its not artic! I even came inside and gently heated it up with a hair dryer just in case. No change.
I have sprayed silicone lubricant into the indexing mechanism as was suggested a few pages back, as well as on the magazine and its shaft, loosened the steel ball grub screw above the magazine shaft, but it hasnt worked for me.
I received mine in November, it has a higher serial number in the 1000's, but was issued before the second batch was sent out..Ed confirmed that the serial numbers do not match the order in which they were pre-ordered in one of his videos so I doubt its that.
For reference my plastic indexing part in the R2D2 hump is black.
It has all of a sudden just stopped rotating fully, only rotates approx half way if at all sometimes since today and I have fired several tins of .25 cal and .30 cal through it without issue until today and I have looked after it well.
I believe this is the cause of the trigger blade not lining up and the breach getting "jammed" until I rotate it clockwise so that it is in line with barrel.
The plot thickens..I was hoping for a reliable gun for this kind of money, but I have had a few gripes and my safety was not working 100% when I got it due to the spring being too tight. Stretching it made it unusable as per dealer instructions, so I found a temporary replacement and it has worked perfectly fine so far, although it could have a slightly higher spring rate.
All I did differently today was fit a water filter cylinder with orange color indicating silica gel in it to my compressor intake to dry the air as my condensation valve used to throw quite a bit of moisture out when filling, immediately after fitting my diy air dryer, it no longer spits out water at all..cant be a bad thing!
The only other thing I did differently today is try our x16 shots of the .25 cal 33.95 grain JSB pellets, then shortly after I only managed to get through a mag and a half approx before the failure.
Sure its cold out, but its not artic! I even came inside and gently heated it up with a hair dryer just in case. No change.
I have sprayed silicone lubricant into the indexing mechanism as was suggested a few pages back, as well as on the magazine and its shaft, loosened the steel ball grub screw above the magazine shaft, but it hasnt worked for me.
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Comtruise
the first thing I would do is check that the adjustment of the trigger is in spec with what is shown on the video as that effects your safety too. That’s a given and should not be changed. There was another earlier post from someone who had an issue where he could not open the action after firing the gun. Had to do with a broken plastic part in the lever mechanism. I’d check that. But before making adjustments to this and that to see what results I’d get I would first reach out to the dealer. There are a few extra moving parts in this gun than the typical PCP rifle and time will tell where the weakness’s are and how we identify and fix them. If these parts appear to be problematic then Ed will have to make improvements and supply new parts. But we are in the first product run and will have to report any problems to the dealer and he has to make it right under warranty. Please let us know what you find out.
the first thing I would do is check that the adjustment of the trigger is in spec with what is shown on the video as that effects your safety too. That’s a given and should not be changed. There was another earlier post from someone who had an issue where he could not open the action after firing the gun. Had to do with a broken plastic part in the lever mechanism. I’d check that. But before making adjustments to this and that to see what results I’d get I would first reach out to the dealer. There are a few extra moving parts in this gun than the typical PCP rifle and time will tell where the weakness’s are and how we identify and fix them. If these parts appear to be problematic then Ed will have to make improvements and supply new parts. But we are in the first product run and will have to report any problems to the dealer and he has to make it right under warranty. Please let us know what you find out.
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You stretched the spring, are you sure it is positioned in the left
water will freeze at 0 degrees C be it Russia or anywhere else, any water vapor in your compressed air it will freeze when decompressed and may stop the indexing mechanism
Yes that's normal
Also normal
See picture above, sounds like your spring is attached to the wrong side of the trigger pin
No, no function of that is to stop the mag to over index just in case of excessive inertia with very heavy high cal pellets - can't see that happen though, the indexing on the outside of mag is very solid imho
Strange, I cannot see why that should help anything, the trigger mechanism reset is very simple
Pulled over by the spring, the pusher rest in a channel in the left side of the guard, in line with the valve pin short of a few tenth of mm
When you pull the trigger the valve pin will moves sideways from the pusher and the trigger will have to move forward to reset
Safety on will position the pusher under the valve pin
Yes that's normal, the catcher also functions as upper guide for the pusher
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This indexing issue has affected me as well. Here is my story.
I received my L2 this past Thursday 2/11/21.
It shot perfect for the first 50-60 shots, then the magazine would not rotate completely. (Under rotate) about once every mag.
I texted Brian and he gave me a couple things to look at, like "make sure the barrel didn't move back" nope that was ok. Then "make sure pellets are fitting ok In mag" yup that was ok.
Then I was reading Ed's post above, about the magazine axle friction screw.
Ed says if the mag is over rotating occasionally, you need to tighten that screw to put more spring pressure on the ball, so there will be more friction on the axle, stopping it from over rotating. Well, my problem was UNDER rotating. When it happens, if I just rotate the mag clockwise just a little, it clicks into position and shoots the next round. Well since he said tighten for over indexing, I figured I would loosen it for my under rotation issue.
I backed out that mag axle screw 1/2 turn. It worked!! I then shot 250 rounds yesterday without a single issue. I believe that screw adjustment is critical for reliable mag indexing.
Hope this helps.
Scott
I received my L2 this past Thursday 2/11/21.
It shot perfect for the first 50-60 shots, then the magazine would not rotate completely. (Under rotate) about once every mag.
I texted Brian and he gave me a couple things to look at, like "make sure the barrel didn't move back" nope that was ok. Then "make sure pellets are fitting ok In mag" yup that was ok.
Then I was reading Ed's post above, about the magazine axle friction screw.
Ed says if the mag is over rotating occasionally, you need to tighten that screw to put more spring pressure on the ball, so there will be more friction on the axle, stopping it from over rotating. Well, my problem was UNDER rotating. When it happens, if I just rotate the mag clockwise just a little, it clicks into position and shoots the next round. Well since he said tighten for over indexing, I figured I would loosen it for my under rotation issue.
I backed out that mag axle screw 1/2 turn. It worked!! I then shot 250 rounds yesterday without a single issue. I believe that screw adjustment is critical for reliable mag indexing.
Hope this helps.
Scott
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You stretched the spring, are you sure it is positioned in the leftrightside of the frame like this?
Yes its located to the left and holds the blade perfectly to the left and mostly vertically straight. I do wish it had a better guide for the blade in that area to stop side to side movement, i feel it would improve the design and make for a more reliable tool as there is a lot of side to side play in that area.
When safety is set, it drops the blade to the bottom.
Spring is not stretched, its not even the original!
Mine was faulty when received and the dealer made me stretch out the original as my safety didnt work when I received it. Terrible idea!
He promised me a new revised spring back in November..still waiting!
So being the MacGyver and self confessed tinkerer that I am (just revealed my age!), I purchased an assortment of springs on Amazon and set about making a temporary replacement so I could actually use my shiny new toy. It has worked perfectly since...
water will freeze at 0 degrees C be it Russia or anywhere else, any water vapor in your compressed air it will freeze when decompressed and may stop the indexing mechanism
What I meant was if it can handle Russian winters, it can handle anywhere so I doubt it that!
The first thing I did was bring it inside and used the hair dryer to warm things. It has also been in my cosy home all night and is still doing so. I have an air dryer on my compressor intake now, zero water comes out the moisture release valve on the compressor now.
Strangely the day I did this compressor mod (yesterday) is when my issue began! Literally within 3 magazines. First 2 I was trying out the .25 cal 33.95's to compare to the 25.39's I have been using for months with zero issues. I also shoot the .30 cal 44.75's so cant be to do with the pellet weight as the Leshiy likes heavy ammo!
Im sure its just a coincidence...
The gun is dry inside. It is not moisture related.
Regulator is approx 130 bar and gun is filled
Yes that's normal
Also normal
Is 2-3mm forwards and backwards without opening the valve normal?
See picture above, sounds like your spring is attached to the wrong side of the trigger pin
Its not, its on the correct side and gun has worked perfectly fine for 3.5 months as it is. Maybe a Goblin came in the night and switched it around? Just kidding, I have checked it and actually just put a new MacGyver spring in, its even better than the last and holding to the left. safety on, drops the blade to the bottom, not firing when in safe so all seems fine there.
No, no function of that is to stop the mag to over index just in case of excessive inertia with very heavy high cal pellets - can't see that happen though, the indexing on the outside of mag is very solid imho
I had to try something to see if it was binding somewhere, it does appear to provide tension on the magazine shaft via steel ball if it over rotates as per Ed's post a couple pages back.
I just loosened it all the way so its flush at the top. No change, so screwed it down again a little. Maybe I should take the ball out and clean in there. My gun is kept very clean and has had an easy cared for life...so far!
Strange, I cannot see why that should help anything, the trigger mechanism reset is very simple
As above. Spring had to be replaced. Trigger is in spec.
Pulled over by the spring, the pusher rest in a channel in the left side of the guard, in line with the valve pin short of a few tenth of mm
It has been in spec since November and working fine.
I have also just reset everything, replaced trigger spring and set it according to Brains video.
I adjusted the trigger grub screw until it would fire when on safe, then backed out tiny amounts until it didnt.
It gives "1st stage" of a fraction of a mm before pushing the valve open.
When you pull the trigger the valve pin will moves sideways from the pusher and the trigger will have to move forward to reset
Well it has always done this perfectly fine (after I fixed it anyway), until yesterday all of a sudden during normal use.
Now it will not reset back enough no matter how far the trigger is adjusted forwards (trigger grub screw all the way flush just as a test)
Safety on will position the pusher under the valve pin
Yes I understand how it works as I fixed a faulty gun I received where it wasnt doing this.
Yes that's normal, the catcher also functions as upper guide for the pusher
Apologies what I meant was Trigger blade, not guard but i think you got it!
OK, mine is getting quite scuffed and a little rough. Fits my theory of the "disconnector" pin binding next to the tigger blade and getting marred. its a bit rough on the edge. Doesn't seem right and never noticed it before. I little black wearing of sure, nut something that catches on my fingernail.
Hopefully getting my mystery solved will help others when it happens as I cant se anything I do to mine that would cause this so this could be something us Beta testers are figuring out for the longevity of certain parts. It is a new concept after all
It is well looked after and gleaming clean and I have only put maybe 1000 pellets through it at max, both .25 and .30 combined.
Thanks for your help, much appreciated!
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This was worth 3-4db in the stock shroud. Not earth shattering, but much more pleasant.
I was unimpressed with the accuracy of my .22 350mm LW barrel until I put this air stripper on the barrel. Now it's a laser. .22 hole groups at the 17 yds I can currently shoot at in my basement. Really strange.
I was unimpressed with the accuracy of my .22 350mm LW barrel until I put this air stripper on the barrel. Now it's a laser. .22 hole groups at the 17 yds I can currently shoot at in my basement. Really strange.
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