EDgun Edgun Leshy 2 in Austria

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Greetings from Austria fellow airgun enthusiasts!

I am new to the forum and relatively new to Austria as well, I moved here 2 years ago. I am a previous owner of a .22lr CZ Brno Mod.2, Anshutz 335 .177 and Slavia 631 .177 and boy oh boy do I miss them dearly...had to sell them since bringing them here would be an administrative nightmare.
While binging on shooting and gun videos I recently stumbled upon a youtube video for the Edgun Leshy 2 and several months of reasearch later since I'm new to the PCP air gun world(apart from shooting rental PCP guns a few times), I can say that I am ready to bite the bullet! Only thing holding me back are the Austrian gun laws which I'm not familiar with, and German is not my mother tongue so I cannot really find the information I need.

In short, the Edgun Leshy 2 is not available for purchase locally so I would have to order it online and this is a bit scary for me because I don't know if I am allowed to do so, of course I want to be 100% compliant with the local laws.
The model I'm looking at is the Leshy 2 250mm in cal. .22 but I have a few questions for anyone local with experience @Steyr @Boris @scolopendra @Jarnold
1. Can I order it online and have it shipped to my home?
2. Is there a power limitation 7j 15j....etc? I know that up to 6mm guns are not regulated but not sure about kinetic energy, on Wikipedia it says there is no limit.
3. Is the fact that it's foldable an issue? I know it's illegal when it comes to centerfire/rimfire weapons but couldn't find any info about PCP regulation.
4. I'm thinking the length shouldn't be an issue since Steyr offers shorter PCP guns locally....but it would be nice to know for sure.

Sorry for the long post everyone, here's a little ADD break for you :) hope I'm not breaking the forum rules but I don't have any pics of the air powered ladies unfortunately.

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Hello, greetings from Vienna 19. I would like to send you a PM. Unfortunately, the forum rules speak against it, because I still have too few postings.

From cal.25 the caliber is notifiable in Austria. But I would advise you to FX or AGT. Austria is a desert when it comes to air rifles. Steyr or not. And there is only the cal.177 in the minds, people don't know anything else. There is an FX dealer in Lower Austria, but I advise against it. There are only krale or ballistas.
 
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bigHUN said:
I would assume the European Union has uniform laws and rules with some minor tweaks here and there, and mostly related to projectile energy limits - if you don't own a firearm license.
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Sadly (or happily depending on the country) it really doesn't. Each country has its own laws which can differ quite a lot. There are no rules for firearms at all because EU is not a country and this stuff is done on a per country basis. There are rules for simpler export for sport and hunting shooters that makes exporting and using guns simpler.
 
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scolopendra said:
Hello, greetings from Vienna 19. I would like to send you a PM. Unfortunately, the forum rules speak against it, because I still have too few postings.

From cal.25 the caliber is notifiable in Austria. But I would advise you to FX or AGT. Austria is a desert when it comes to air rifles. Steyr or not. And there is only the cal.177 in the minds, people don't know anything else. There is an FX dealer in Lower Austria, but I advise against it. There are only krale or ballistas.
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Hello, can you confirm that you can buy and poses air rifle in .22 full power without FAC?
 
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Molec said:
In short, the Edgun Leshy 2 is not available for purchase locally so I would have to order it online and this is a bit scary for me because I don't know if I am allowed to do so, of course I want to be 100% compliant with the local laws.
The model I'm looking at is the Leshy 2 250mm in cal. .22 but I have a few questions for anyone local with experience @Steyr @Boris @scolopendra @Jarnold
1. Can I order it online and have it shipped to my home?
2. Is there a power limitation 7j 15j....etc? I know that up to 6mm guns are not regulated but not sure about kinetic energy, on Wikipedia it says there is no limit.
3. Is the fact that it's foldable an issue? I know it's illegal when it comes to centerfire/rimfire weapons but couldn't find any info about PCP regulation.
4. I'm thinking the length shouldn't be an issue since Steyr offers shorter PCP guns locally....but it would be nice to know for sure.
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1. Yes, but read rule 2.
2. Yes. For Germany it's 7,5 joules for air rifles. Also if the gun is imported it needs to have an engraved F on it.
3. No issue here as long as it's 7,5 and has the F engraving.
 
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senjski uskok said:
Hello, can you confirm that you can buy and poses air rifle in .22 full power without FAC?
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Cal.22 can be purchased normally in Austria, also in FAC, without having to report it officially. From 6mm, so cal.25,.30,.35...it is only officially reported. However, it can also be purchased normally from the age of 18.
 
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bigHUN said:
I would assume the European Union has uniform laws and rules with some minor tweaks here and there, and mostly related to projectile energy limits - if you don't own a firearm license.
Not sure what part in Austria you living.....If you can search for some local airgun or gun clubs or shooting ranges ???
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The opposite is true. Rules vary wildly. The EU has certain obligations/regulations all members must adhere to, which are mostly tied to economics, health and food safety, and the environment/climate. Other than that countries are for the most part free to make their own laws.

Im in the Netherlands, which has no restrictions on power, caliber, mag size, etc. But if I take my unrestricted Huben GK1 across the border into Germany I would likely be arrested. Since they have a 7.5 joule power limit.
 
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In Canada is simple.
The police/government created a list of guns and airguns that they approved for imports, also in that list there are Brands/Models that are prohibited to use or own. That list is available to public even in pdf to download - last time I checked - about 179K pages volume.
Next...
"Airsoft, bb, pellet, paintball or airguns that fire at a muzzle velocity above 500 fps and with a muzzle energy greater than 5.7 joules are considered regulated firearms (i.e., require a firearms licence) under the Firearms Act."
Next...
You make a firearms license if you wanna purchase >500 fps or >5.7 J pistol or rifle
And buy from a dealer/distributor...
 
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Everyone, thank you for your comments and suggestions!

@scolopendra greetings from the 23rd :)

So meanwhile, I asked Balistas(they are based in CZ), but they didn't provide a helpfull answer:
"Die Einhaltung der geltenden Gesetze und des Waffenrechts in Österreich liegt bereits in Ihrer persönlichen Verantwortung." LOL yes that's what I'm trying to find out.

I also asked Edgun online Shop (based in Spain), they claim that they ship to Austria every week and that there are no limitations for power regulation, only for caliber above .25, as some ouf you said :) it's not that I don't trust them but I'm still hesitant.

Even though I'm very tempted to "pull the trigger" on the purchase, I will still go to a couple of shooting ranges, gun stores and ask them for sure, I don't want to break any laws or waste time and money on something I cannot have.
 
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@Molec Sorry for the late reply:

Im not giving legal advice here, as i can#t take responsibilty for that, so im just stating my personal opinion (ofc I checked the laws etc.).

1. Yes BUT: Not from austrian shops. They are prohibited by law sending (air)guns to their customers. Still its allowed to order airguns from shops outside austria, such as germany, etc.

2. No, but as @scolopendra already statet, you have to register guns above a certain caliber (regardless of the power).

3. No. Remember: Carrying a airgun outside follows the same rules and regulations as for a real weapon. So dont put it in your pocket and go outside.

4. It's not.

5. Important point nearly no1 knows about: Silencers even for airguns are forbidden in austria (completely different to germany for example). You are only allowed to own them if you have the permission to own a real silencer for a real gun. So when you order stuff online from outside austria, be sure to contact them and tell them, to remove the silencer before shipping (diana stuff, etc.).

All as far as I know...
 
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Molec, I live in Spain and if I was to have any question about PCPs I would just go down to the local police station and ask there. I'll bet there is someone there who speaks English. Or just find a buddy who can help you translate. My wife is Spanish so I have a built in translator for the technical discussions. The airgun dealers also could have answers for you if they are already shipping to Austria.
 
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orangeokie said:
Molec, I live in Spain and if I was to have any question about PCPs I would just go down to the local police station and ask there. I'll bet there is someone there who speaks English. Or just find a buddy who can help you translate. My wife is Spanish so I have a built in translator for the technical discussions. The airgun dealers also could have answers for you if they are already shipping to Austria.
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I would not recommend doing that. It's a common mistake, that policemen are law experts. They are good in executing the law as far as it's concerning their job. But in general a local police station doesnt (have to) know much about international import-export-rules. So it's very likely you get a wrong answer. If it's wrong, you are facing the consequences - not them.
 
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@Jarnold Thank you for your input!
Well I consulted 2 shops and 2 shooting ranges near me. Another issue that Jarnold mentioned came up, where can I shoot an airgun....I managed to find 2 shooting ranges near me that allow aiguns with a distance of 10 meters, and I live in an apartment so cannot use my backyard(which is legal here) lol.

Furthermore the shops said that I will have issues with the delivery since I'm not a certified weapons dealer.

Bottom line, I've decided to go with a .22lr until I have my own backyard :)

Easier and cheaper to buy locally.
No legal issues, although a bit more requirements, like registration(the shop does this for you) and a gun safe with separate compartments for the weapon and the ammo, which I would get anyways.
More parts and ammo options available.
Longer shooting ranges available for .22lr, more sports clubs and competitions, that are suprisingly cheaper to participate than for airguns lol

If anyone cares, it's a CZ 457 MTR 16"
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...will be picking it up on Saturday, but I plan on upgrading it with an MDT Oryx chasis, UTG 360 bipod, 419 30moa picatinny rail and I'm still thinking about a scope....

I am considering Arken SH4J Gen 2 6-24x50 or Element Optics Helix 6-24x50, these are decent "budget" options and can be found localy for around 500eur which is ridiculous compared to US prices.

If you guys know of a better scope alternative in this price range + - 100eur, suggestions are more than welcome.

Not in a hurry since Black Friday deals might come up. :)
 
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