edgun matador r5m or?

[Deleted member 33063]

hello guys. i am thinking of getting a matador R5M second hand fully furnished in .177 but perfect condition. but i have mixed opinions from friends that worked on them in the past and spare parts are impossible to find . please i want your lights are they reliable ,should i go for it? or should i get a wildcat BT and spend 500 euros on top for accessories

 

[Ezana4CE]

@trompis I’ve had a second hand Lelya 2.0 for over a year. It came with spare parts and I haven’t taken it apart to do much. I’ve removed the stock to swap stocks, adjust the hammer spring, and I added some lube to certain parts. I’ve been hunting in slightly freezing weather on multiple occasions and in hot weather. I haven’t had a major issue requiring repair work yet. BUT when buying a gun I think it is important to have access to parts and support. EdGunWest in the US (California) is a source for parts.I haven’t looked at their site for parts in quite some time. I think I t’s good to keep extra o-rings and cocking lever springs on-hand. I don’t know how difficult it is for you to order parts from abroad. The R5M platform seems pretty solid in my experience. It has held up well.

 

[Deleted member 33063]

i live in europe and my country does not have a distributor anymore. edgunshop is the only option. but they are very expensive and mostly out of stock.

 

[mubhaur]

My experience with Edgun r5m .25 was very bad.
I got rid of it.

FX gives you great support even in my country where there is no official dealer of FX.

Bhaur

 

[Deleted member 33063]

My experience with Edgun r5m .25 was very bad.
I got rid of it.

FX gives you great support even in my country where there is no official dealer of FX.

Bhaur

what were the problems with yours sir?

 

[damageINC]

I have an R5M in .25 and a few issues with o-rings and an odd issue with the stopper pins for the cocking handles bending, mine was fine. I've heard the .25 has more issues with mag cycling but I haven't had problems. I'd reach out to Brian at Edgun West and get a couple extra valves maybe cocking handle springs like another suggested and you should be good. Taking apart and servicing is easy and Brian has videos on doing it.

 

[mubhaur]

what were the problems with yours sir?

Very hard cocking, below average trigger and bad accuracy. Magazine did not work properly.

Ed didn't reply to the emails.

 

[Ezana4CE]

For people talking abiout having magazine issues, were these plastic or metal magazines?

 

[MikeVV]

Wow...........

My first air rifle was a Lelya 2, the little brother to the slightly longer Matador. It's been a bit over two years now.
I've had ZERO problems with it.

1 - NO air leaks.
2 - Yes the trigger is not Olympic quality, but there's MUCH worse on the market.
3 - Accuracy...I shoot off-hand, so no, I haven't shot any dime sized groups at 100 yards with it, BUT it will shoot a five round group into a 5/8" dia. dot on a piece of paper at 20 yards, in my 73 year old hands. So YES, it (the Lelya / Matador) WILL shoot very well
Check out some YouTube videos !
4 - Very comfortable at the shoulder.
5 - Yes, the cocking action is not one of it better claims to fame ! BUT...it's also not the gloom and doom as noted above either ! One of those things that you get used to pretty easily if you let yourself.
6 - The OEM magazines are plastic. But by design, they are very simple discs, no springs, no adjusting required.

I was actually looking at the same gun that you are looking at, but I like to stay with the .22 cal., which I think there is one of those too.

Again, go into YouTube and watch some videos. They will dispel some of the ugly noted above.

Mike

 

[Deleted member 33063]

Wow...........

My first air rifle was a Lelya 2, the little brother to the slightly longer Matador. It's been a bit over two years now.
I've had ZERO problems with it.

1 - NO air leaks.
2 - Yes the trigger is not Olympic quality, but there's MUCH worse on the market.
3 - Accuracy...I shoot off-hand, so no, I haven't shot any dime sized groups at 100 yards with it, BUT it will shoot a five round group into a 5/8" dia. dot on a piece of paper at 20 yards, in my 73 year old hands. So YES, it (the Lelya / Matador) WILL shoot very well
Check out some YouTube videos !
4 - Very comfortable at the shoulder.
5 - Yes, the cocking action is not one of it better claims to fame ! BUT...it's also not the gloom and doom as noted above either ! One of those things that you get used to pretty easily if you let yourself.
6 - The OEM magazines are plastic. But by design, they are very simple discs, no springs, no adjusting required.

I was actually looking at the same gun that you are looking at, but I like to stay with the .22 cal., which I think there is one of those too.

Again, go into YouTube and watch some videos. They will dispel some of the ugly noted above.

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Mike

thank you for your honest comment sir and for the time you spared for answering my question . i am pretty familiar with the capabilities of the riffle. my big concern is with parts availability, i already tested the gun and i liked it. problem is parts are nowhere to be found in europe and i plan to use it a lot. and we all know what comes with heavy usage. i can only own .177 with unlimited power in the country i live . riffles i owned( fx impact mk1, mk2 and mk2 power plenum .BRK sniper xr, fx dreamline,AA s510,daystate air ranger)