Elevated targets on Field Target course

[cavedweller]

For some reason I thought I had heard that too. But I just skimmed the most updated rules and didn't find it. I sure could have glossed over it though.

These matches where we were shooting the high targets would have been on 2019-20 probably, so perhaps before this inclinometers outlawing? And the two that I remember with the inclinometers would have probably both been Unlimited/Freestyle class shooters at the time. It wasn't a concern for me at the time, and I'm only remembering it because it thought it was cool as I'd never seen the inclinometer on a phone used this way.

Anybody know for sure if inclinometers were outlawed?

(Again, actually shooting and seeing the influence the angle has on poi is ideal, but I understand being in a suburban location complicates that possibility).

i believe i read it in the WFTF rules.... ?

 

[GLPalinkas]

Awesome Keith. Can’t wait.
ps what’s all that white stuff on the ground.

 

[Motorhead]

Holy cow!!!! Is that 50 yards out AND UP?!?!

NEVADA Baby !!!
Shootin the mountain sides !!!

 

[Kdog]

I wonder what motived you KDog

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Yea those 2 on your course are crazy high and it was fun shooting them. 18ft was high enough for me, just trying to catch some different wind on some longer shots in our field.

 

[Scotchmo]

At Mass Rifle, we have at least half our targets elevated. They vary from a few feet, to thirty feet above the ground, all in tree's. our most difficult two, are at 45deg. One is 14yards, the other 12ish. Neither require any adjustment in poa. Of course, new shooters to the targets assume they need to hold under or over, but it's not the case. As Fl has said, until you get past 20yds, and 20deg, there's no need to change your poa.

As for inclometers, the only ban I know of is for the WFTC. It has to do with digital devices, including inclometers, range finders, levels and wind meters. As far as AAFTA shooting goes, I've never seen the ban, electronics or otherwise.

It’s possible to set a high angle AAFTA legal target, where it’s impossible to get a clean hit.

Unless you have a specially designed target, the faceplate needs to be set vertically. So, the close, high angle targets present another particular type of difficulty. Presented with a 45 degree shot, with a 3/8” KZ and a 1/8” thick faceplate, it’s technically impossible to avoid a split with anything over a .177 caliber.

Put that same target at 50 or 60 degrees, and it’s impossible to avoid a split even with a .177 caliber.

 

[humbled.ag]

It’s possible to set a high angle AAFTA legal target, where it’s impossible to get a clean hit.

Unless you have a specially designed target, the faceplate needs to be set vertically. So, the close, high angle targets present another particular type of difficulty. Presented with a 45 degree shot, with a 3/8” KZ and a 1/8” thick faceplate, it’s technically impossible to avoid a split with anything over a .177 caliber.

Put that same target at 50 or 60 degrees, and it’s impossible to avoid a split even with a .177 caliber.

Yup. That circle turns into an ellipse. They both have 25mm KZ's. That leaves plenty of room to clear the kill zone, or miss it.

 

[Frank in Fairfield]

Up is a lot of fun as long as there is some sort of backstop.
Remember the weakest 12fpe rifle will still shoot a pellet 450 yards.
When you start shooting slugs the distance will increase a bit.

 

[Scotchmo]

High angle targets have three factors that increase difficulty.

1) reduced vertical MOA allowance
2) more awkward shooting position
3) correction for reduced projectile drop when compared to typical horizontal target.

The Troyer multiplier for an elevated target is a straight 25% increase. Assuming that the shooter correctly accounts for the trajectory at the new angle, and can get in a comfortable shooting position, 45 degrees still increases the apparent vertical MOA based multiplier by closer to 50%.

If the goal is to use high angle shots to increase the reported Troyer, while not making the course too difficult, there is an advantage to using elevated targets, 15 or 20 degrees OK, but not if they are at 30+ degrees.