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Field Target is an arms race.

Talk loud all the time, talk with people addressing their lane, create chaos in general ..... when your time to shoot, put on some noise canceling headphones and get after it !!! You will have MADE an advantage, if only for a short spell (y) :ROFLMAO:
Lol, all that is likely to upset folks even more than telling them field target is an equipment race. 😅
 
I don't think anything will outperform your non reg, latter gen, USFT for FT. That's a soft and precise shooting rifle, no POI shifts, and nothing much to go wrong. As solid as it gets.

This is very true. Currently playing with a .20 barrel on that USFT, slowly building confidence in this new barrel.

Using the USFT (at least with the .177 poly barrel) almost feels like cheating.

I've been able to resist buying a new ft gun for quite a while now, but I still feel the urge sometimes.
 
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Cam .... is awesome! Because of several AGN members, I am using the Athlon Heras 6-24x50 30mm tube on one HFT gun and the Athlon Helos 6-24x50 34 mm tube on my EFT rig. I also chose the Athlon Helos 2-12x44 for my HFT pistol... haven't reset my dope yet but i am looking forward to it. I do like Sightrons S3's just wish they had some more markings within the reticle.
keeping the post on track... is it still an arms race if we have more than one pistol or rifle for field target or?
To be a race, every race must have a starting line and a finish line.
How can you want more markings than this?

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Yep. Since the lines are blurred between my (apparently) abrasive term of "arms race" and the recent insertion of "human nature"....yeah, more than one gun is still the same thing. I've got four 19fpe guns that could be shot in a match right now, well one of those four needs better dope...the existence of all four ties back to the pursuit of better performance. And to reiterate how intrinsic big money is to field target, the scope/gun total of those four is just shy of 10k. And that doesn't include paying for machining work on rebarells, or side wheels. Despite my bluntness, I'm right there with most of you guys as far as throwing money at this silly game.

So....arms race/human nature/pursuit of "better."

Puhtato puhtahto. All the same thing, calling it one versus the other just makes guys mad. 😂

And no, there doesn't appear to be a finish line to this arms race. Even though I tell myself I'm happy with current stable, and that any of the four (and the extra barrels I have for each of those four) can and has won matches, I still can't help but wondering if there's something better or that would give me a slightly larger competitive edge.
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Just a little perspective from a DeSoto Airgunners FT match in Florida
Last year.... 48 shot match ..... inexpensive rifle (modified) and less expensive, albeit old scope. 48/48

Gene C.QB 78 CustomTasco 8-40JSB 13.448Clean Course 1st overall

I had the pleasure of shooting with Gene that day. He cleaned the course and me.
Gary P.Thomas FTMarch 10-60A.A. 8.442WFTF 2nd Overall

I lost the "arms race" that day. Gene probably has a few hundred dollars and lots of "knowing his kit" hours in his rig.

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Full match report here:
http://desotoairgunners.net/id326.htm
 
Just a little perspective from a DeSoto Airgunners FT match in Florida
Last year.... 48 shot match ..... inexpensive rifle (modified) and less expensive, albeit old scope. 48/48

Gene C.QB 78 CustomTasco 8-40JSB 13.448Clean Course 1st overall

I had the pleasure of shooting with Gene that day. He cleaned the course and me.
Gary P.Thomas FTMarch 10-60A.A. 8.442WFTF 2nd Overall

I lost the "arms race" that day. Gene probably has a few hundred dollars and lots of "knowing his kit" hours in his rig.

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Full match report here:
http://desotoairgunners.net/id326.htm

I love it.

And I wish it was more often the case instead of the exception.
 
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Anyway, speaking of Sightron’s, of which I have 2, I was at a match and me and the other shooter with were doing good. We got to a Lane that a very small kill zone at about 35 yards. There were so many missed hits that the hole for the KZ was hard to see, my partner couldn’t tell exactly where it was and missed both shots using his Hawke scope.
My Sightron was able to see the edge of the hole and I got both shots, so you can buy scores some time, but then came forced position shots and I suck at those, oh well.
 
Anyway, speaking of Sightron’s, of which I have 2, I was at a match and me and the other shooter with were doing good. We got to a Lane that a very small kill zone at about 35 yards. There were so many missed hits that the hole for the KZ was hard to see, my partner couldn’t tell exactly where it was and missed both shots using his Hawke scope.
My Sightron was able to see the edge of the hole and I got both shots, so you can buy scores some time, but then came forced position shots and I suck at those, oh well.
See my other thread about “what color are your targets” because faceplates painted a lighter color than pellet lead, still allow acquisition of a blown out KZ, esp at 16x.
 
I've said this before...but people find ways of getting the things they want if it's important to them....even if it appears completely irresponsible from a financial perspective.

Mike
Well said Mike.

My WFTF Springer is a great example of this. I purchased a new TX200 for $650 at an auction. I paid full price for the tbt tuning kit, $60 to my door. The stock is leftover material from another stock build $0. The Sightron S8 was free. The sidewheel was $20. I'll add another $150 for hardware and finish materials. So, if you want it to happen, you can build a competetive rig for under $1000.00.

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Growing the Sport of Field Target: A Call for Unity





Field Target has always been a sport that celebrates precision, skill, and camaraderie. It’s one of the few activities where shooters of all ages and abilities can come together, enjoy friendly competition, and share a passion for marksmanship. In many ways, it’s a sport that uniquely lends itself to being a family affair, bringing together generations in a shared pursuit.





However, I’ve noticed a growing focus in some circles on equipment—specifically, the divide between “cheap” and “expensive” setups or “good” and “bad” gear. While it’s true that equipment plays a role in any sport, I believe we must remember this: it’s the shooter behind the trigger who makes the difference, not the price tag of their rifle.





Great shooters can deliver incredible results with modest equipment, while even the most expensive setups won’t guarantee success without practice, patience, and skill. The beauty of Field Target lies in its inclusivity. It’s a sport where nearly anyone can start, regardless of their budget, and grow their skills over time.





Shifting the Focus





Our shared goal should be to grow the sport and welcome new participants. Instead of focusing on what gear others are using, let’s focus on making Field Target more accessible, enjoyable, and inclusive.


• Encourage New Shooters: Offer guidance, mentorship, and support to those just starting out, regardless of their equipment.


• Celebrate Participation: Every shooter who steps up to the line contributes to the community and keeps the sport alive.


• Maintain Perspective: The most important competition is between ourselves and our personal bests, not whose rifle or scope costs more.





Field Target is one of the few remaining sports that truly welcomes families, young and old alike. If we lose sight of this, we risk alienating potential shooters who could bring new energy and diversity to our events.





A Call for Unity





I encourage everyone to focus on growing the sport rather than on comparing equipment. Let’s work together to create an environment where every shooter feels valued, regardless of their gear. After all, Field Target is about more than just hitting targets—it’s about building a community, sharing a passion, and passing it on to future generations.





Let’s aim for a future where our sport thrives because of our shared commitment to its growth, not because of the equipment we use. Together, we can ensure Field Target remains the inclusive, family-friendly sport we all love.





What do you think? Let’s have a constructive conversation about how we can make this happen.
I agree on the constructive part. Ben, you have by far contributed the most to the LRFT community.
 
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Quick story. We'll maybe not! I went to my first Field target event at Mormon lake about four or five years ago with a brocock Bantam in .22 and I don't even know what scope. I did fair and looking back, probably better than I remember.

Anyways, a few years later I was towards the top at a few events with my RAW. 22 (uft) and wolverine .177 (ft). (Dang you Bricker!)

But the next year or so i did not practice that much and my scores showed it. I was middle of the pack at best. I could not blame it on my equipment as it was the same as I had used previously.

This year - look out!

But let me point out my friend Kent Gladden. Shoots some older wolverine or something like that with not an expensive scope and is always at the top of our FT shots. But, he shoots Prarie dogs on a regular basis. So he knows his equipment very well, which i feel is more important.

My goal this year is to beat him at one of our shoots. I am also regressing and going to try a springer. Not at UFT though!
 
To add a bit of history, this is an Air Arms NJR-100. It was sold between 89-94. Top of the line, built for FT pcp. It cost about $400 at the time without the custom stock, scope, rings and fill tank. So all told, way back then you were still payng about $1,000.00 to get into the game with top equipment. That same money would be considered a good down payment for a new car at the time
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. Given inflation I'd say we're in the same zone now. So the race isn't new, you've simply noticed it recently.
 
So the race isn't new, you've simply noticed it recently.

Actually I belive everyone has known that all along. I don't believe anyone has "simply noticed it recently". It's no secret that these sports are limited to those with the time and money to be competitive. It's always been that way and will continue to be. The fact that it is being discussed today does not mean the concept is new to us.
 
Actually I belive everyone has known that all along. I don't believe anyone has "simply noticed it recently". It's no secret that these sports are limited to those with the time and money to be competitive. It's always been that way and will continue to be. The fact that it is being discussed today does not mean the concept is new to us.
Fair enough, but I was talking to the OP, not the room. This has been a drum for him over the past few years, hence the 'recent'.
 
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