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Field Target is an arms race.

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Franklink said:
Scope and gun are the biggest financial factors. The small stuff like hamsters does add up though. There are people who shoot Open without the shooting jacket, butt hooks, etc.

Yes a Revere and an ok scope CAN be competitive in Hunter, in the right hands. We don't see many people stopping at a Huntsman and a UTG scope though, even in Hunter. That's the theme of this discussion.

Positional shots are the most earned shots in field target. You simply don't get the points on those lanes unless youve got some sort of offhand practice routine.
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Oddly, 2.5 months back 2024, just before the Worlds, I overheard a very accomplished WFTF shooter telling a (new to the sport) young man,
“practice your seated shots first and when you have mastered those, then begin practicing your kneeling shots, and when you have mastered your kneeling begin practicing your standing shots“.
At first I thought this odd - but in thinking it over - on a 60 shot course, 52 of them are usually seated; Hmmm, i wondered ?
So I have been trying this practice method for the last 3 months. and low and behold my overall KZ scores has gone way up.
I'm not ready just yet to start trying kneeling (or all standing) but I'm getting there.
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Just APPLY your self ... ONE SHOT AT A TIME.
Don't fret whats coming up, Don't fret whats happened previous.
Tune out what others are doing or saying staying focused on playing YOUR GAME !
Follow your established sequence of setting up each shot to the letter, stay focused on the current shot ... Read line 2 again ;)
 
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Motorhead said:
Only those who can shoot pistol in DEADMAN position in the limited class generally can hang with and many times beat the hunter seat & stick shooters.
Yea it is a LOT harder to be stable, but Limited gets the option to click turrets easing the hold over difficulty when unstable anyways. ( Some click, some holdover )
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please explain this Deadman position ? i can't find any ? Thanks
 
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beerthief said:
please explain this Deadman position ? i can't find any ? Thanks
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DEADMAN ...
Sitting "Indian" legs crossed resting rifles Butt or a pistol grip heal on thigh, head dropped way down to get optical view making for a very scrunched up body position.
If able, a very stable position so long as no extremes in elevation Up/down on in play. Tho some can adjust for that too (y)

* Generally those who shoot the position will mount optics a lot further forward.
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Bramezy said:
is this for Limited Pistol FT?
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Position shown of Mike & his THOMAS can be done by either a Hunter OR Limited shooter ... difference being a Limited shooter can Adjust elevation on scope where a Hunter shooter Can Not. Limited shooter also Can Not use a tall bucket or seat or shootin sticks.
 
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dgeesaman said:
I kinda tried this position the other day but I could not quite get my head in position to see through the scope.

Moving the scope way forward might make it possible. But then it would ruin my standing setup.
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When scope goes more forward ( Rifle ) you approach the offhand position as if shooting a bullpup offhand ... As In: Rotating your body far more sideways to target, Fore end holding arm scrunched up along your ribs or at least a lot more tucked in.
This rotates your supporting shoulder further back moving your head position to optic forward. Works great !!
 
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Motorhead said:
When scope goes more forward ( Rifle ) you approach the offhand position as if shooting a bullpup offhand ... As In: Rotating your body far more sideways to target, Fore end holding arm scrunched up along your ribs or at least a lot more tucked in.
This rotates your supporting shoulder further back moving your head position to optic forward. Works great !!
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Airgun yoga.
 
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PowderBurnt said:
Airgun yoga.
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That’s true. Lots of people say they can’t do it but they don’t really try. I’d recommend some yoga first. Practice the “easy pose” and then “forward bend easy pose”. Do it for a few minutes every day or every other day, for a week or two. Then try the deadman position while holding your airgun. Do that for a few times at home. Then try it and actually shoot at a target the next time you go to the range.
 
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Reg Creep said:
Saying shooting sports are an arms race = admiting you suck at shooting.

There, I said it. Prove me wrong.

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Let’s say we’re less practiced or suffer from bullseye deficiency syndrome.
MEANWHILE
I’ve come to understand the “arms race“ as this thread is discussing, is fueled by:
Aging eyes trying to see better
Aging bodies try to work better
and
EGO trying to perform better and look better.
in the grand scheme of things, a place to practice and the time to practice, age and money all have a role in the game of field target excellence
 
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Scotchmo said:
That’s true. Lots of people say they can’t do it but they don’t really try. I’d recommend some yoga first. Practice the “easy pose” and then “forward bend easy pose”. Do it for a few minutes every day or every other day, for a week or two. Then try the deadman position while holding your airgun. Do that for a few times at home. Then try it and actually shoot at a target the next time you go to the range.
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I just received my first shooting harness this week. Impressive how stable and relaxed everything becomes.

It’s surprisingly comfortable and I suspect it could also be used to gently extend my range of movement to reach positions that I normally could not. I don’t know that I will make it a goal to achieve a deadman position but I can say I look forward to shooting seated more than before. And more seated shooting is very valuable.
 
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Reg Creep said:
Saying shooting sports are an arms race = admiting you suck at shooting.

There, I said it. Prove me wrong.

😜
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Very simple. Look at the equipment used at any disciplines National Championship. Now, I am an Indian not the Arrow guy, but be realistice. I have shot in these matches. No one, NO ONE, is there with the basic equipment to be involved in the sport. Do you need the absolute latest and greatest to compete? No, but you need a certain level of equipment to be competitive at the upper levels of any shooting sport. Will the best equipment make the lazy mediocre shooter relevant, nope. Nor will an excellent shooter win using a Daisy Red Ryder.
 
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