Karma Figment of anyone else’s imagination??

[pbike257]

lol. I’m same way. Air Force guns. Too fugly for me.

very ugly but they work

 

[L.Leon]

I didn’t realize FX invented PCPs, kudos to them… Hopefully they “crush” in court “all” the competition and become the only brand standing… That will do wonders for the huge PCP market as a whole… FX is going to EFF EX themselves… Who needs choices anyway?

 

[Bgardner]

I've heard threw a VERY reliable source that KARMA's Red Panda as well Another manufacturer and others are in a FIGHT with FX over a recently granted patent on over barrel air reservoirs / plenums.
These manufactures outside FX have received attorney issued Cease & Desist orders in selling any such airguns utilizing said design traits.

Yea .. this news is going to get out on a bigger bill board soon enough if it really is true and happening.

So this is Second Party info FWIW

 

[Bgardner]

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1915 air powered launcher with chamber around barrel. Nothing new here. Definite prior art not desclosed to the parted office

 

[Bgardner]

Well it would explain why the panda has seemingly went extinct. Lol. Well I hope this will only delay the EQ. That is a perfect gun to suit my needs and I don’t believe it has any of that sort of technology in it that would be an infringement problem. I wonder if barra is the other manufacturer ? Didnt they recently release a budget gun that has the air storage around the barrel ?

Actually they may be able to work something out. Maybe they can jack up the price of the panda and agree to pay FX a royalty for every gun sold .

Not exactly new developed in 1915

 

[MrP]

Do they though??

Sure the "Base" price on Some of them are under that 1K mark, BUT by the time you get one to shoot even close to MOAconsistently you are well over that 1K price.

I know this post will piss off the loyal AF owners, I get it, but even you guys have to admit the statement is true

Well the list keeps getting longer... at first it was more or less

.25
40-60 fpe (something like that)
Under $1000


Since the post I replied to, it has grown to include meeting some standard of pretty to look at, regulated, and consistently close to 1 moa. Would not recommend an Air Force gun for that.

And I'm not a fan boy - but I in fact got something for 500ish bucks that shoots all kinds of 25 caliber stuff at 60+ fpe at accuracy level that's good enoughfor me, from AF. For that they are great, and 100% agree not for looking posh or shooting regulated

 

[Trucker3573]

Well the list keeps getting longer... at first it was more or less

.25
40-60 fpe (something like that)
Under $1000


Since the post I replied to, it has grown to include meeting some standard of pretty to look at, regulated, and consistently close to 1 moa. Would not recommend an Air Force gun for that.

And I'm not a fan boy - but I in fact got something for 500ish bucks that shoots all kinds of 25 caliber stuff at 60+ fpe at accuracy level that's good enoughfor me, from AF. For that they are great, and 100% agree not for looking posh or shooting regulated

I know you can regulate the AF guns. Airshootist has a video on YouTube. Moa (at least at 50 yards) should be a relatively normal standard in today’s market. I have no idea if the AF cheaper guns do that or not. Also with today’s choices no real reason to buy an ugly gun. Of course that is always 100% subjective anyway.

 

[Justaguy]

I didn’t realize FX invented PCPs, kudos to them… Hopefully they “crush” in court “all” the competition and become the only brand standing… That will do wonders for the huge PCP market as a whole… FX is going to EFF EX themselves… Who needs choices anyway?

Skout/Smart Parts did the same thing in the paintball community. Sued a lot of good people right out of business. A person doesn't start a business to 'do the right thing'. They don't start a business to be everybody's friend.
They do it for money.

 

[Trucker3573]

Skout/Smart Parts did the same thing in the paintball community. Sued a lot of good people right out of business. A person doesn't start a business to 'do the right thing'. They don't start a business to be everybody's friend.
They do it for money.

Yes happens all the time in just about every industry