Finally getting a PCP Pistol need some advice.

I’m finally going to get an air pistol. I’ve decided on the Weihrauch HW44 . I will be using it to shoot at paper targets and possibly some steel spinners in my yard which distance wise is a maximum of 33 yards. When the opportunity arises and a squirrel crosses my path, I will go for a moving target. I was wondering if I could get some advice on the pluses and minuses of choosing the best caliber for me 17 or 22. I have a compressor for filling my tanks and plan on using my small Benjamin air tank so I can easily pack it away in my backpack when hiking like I currently do with my Leshiy. I know some basics like less shots between refills with 22 over 17 and there is more knock down power in 22. I don’t know if how accuracy is with the different calibers. I would also like to know what scope to mount. I have astigmatism in my shooting eye so red dots don’t always work so I want a low power scope with a long eye relief.

thanks in advance for and tips you can pass on.
 
i have this gun in 22 cal , shoots deceptively good and quiet! i used a dot sight with the green dot which showed up better than red. if you cant use a dot sight of any kind , than there is the weirach 2x20 pistol scope that was designed for this gun. i have not had opportunity to use it however, put it was designed to have a 18-20" eye relief. that means it was designed to look through it with arms extended forward. i got 16 shots per fill, but you can fill this thing many times with a bottle, even a little one.
 
The Weihrauch HW44 is way out of my price range, 
so I'm only dropping in to give a few general statements:

1 - PCP Pistols are an absolute blast, and if you go with this, you'll have all sorts of fun!
[I just got an Artemis PP700S-A in .22 cal - And also an add-on folding-stock]

2 - As mentioned above - If you scope the pistol - Go With A Pistol Specific Scope. 
[Rifle scope optics give a clear picture close up @ a few inches / Pistol scopes give a clear picture at an arms-length]
*I thew a rifle scopes on my pistol/folding-stock combo, and it's just fine, but, the scope is useless in pistol configuration* 
*I have a nice internal red dot for pistols.. 

.117 vs .22

Indoor shooting Only, I might go with a .177, but I went with a .22 instead since I planned on shooting outside as well..
I haven't used .177 pellets in years and years because they have too many limiting factors. [Excluding shot count]

🙂👍 

Sam -

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Double Whammy: I am color-blind and also have a slight astigmatism..
Focusing on a laser or dot isn't always the easiest, but, it is certainly doable..
Losing a 'red' dot when I'm aiming into anything 'green' is more of a pain. 😜
 
I owned a 22 sold it because it was almost as much to carry as a rifle and I’m not a particularly good pistol shot. The gun was super accurate. Probably as accurate as a rifle.

Sights?? I don’t follow how you could use an optical pistol scope and not a red dot but either would work. If you are going for an optical scope I would suggest at least a 4 power to get the most out of that gun. If you put a 4 power scope on it and shoot off a bag that gun will shoot quarter sized groups at 40 yards. I’d go for the 22 just a little more versatile 
 
I have an HW44 in .177 cal. Accuracy has been amazing and quality is high. You can go way up in weight with modern .177 pellets but you probably can't come down in .22 to the same degree/effect. I no longer hunt but I've taken many squirrels and rabbits over the years with .177 air guns without the benefit of those heavier modern pellets. .22 may have some advantages in some instances (especially larger/higher power guns) but I don't see those advantages in this case.

I have a Sig Sauer Romeo 4 red dot on mine that works very well. I have a UTG 2-7 x 32 pistol scope on my pp700 and like it enough to have ordered another one to possibly use on the Weihrauch but I haven't mounted it yet. The groups I've seen with the red dot have been outstanding-it will shoot quarter size groups at 20 years consistently and smaller if off a bench and full rest. The dot may not be perfectly circular but it is relatively small and is as good as my old eyes can resolve. It works very well in this application.
 
I have given up on .177 pellets..reason, fat fingers ..so it easy for me now,.22 all the way;OK maybe I should say old wore out fat fingers.

Btw I do have some nice .177 pistols ,and wish they came in.22,and as people say pistol shooting is another ballgame=way harder and that is why we do it.,I also use scopes and to give you a reference 4 power is about right for me,just to hard to hold a pistol steady enough to have too much power,then again that is me.
 
I have a HW44 in .177 and love it. Very accurate with JSB 8.44 (800fps) and just started with the 10.34 and getting 750fps. Also have some 13.4 Monsters on order to try out. I went with the .177 for slightly higher shot count and the higher fps so I could stretch it out a ways. I've also got almost everything else in .22 so I also kinda just wanted to have a .177 around. Amazing pistol. Accuracy, trigger, handling feel - nothing not to like. 

I usually shoot it indoors using a RMR red dot. I also have a 4x handgun scope that I'll use for longer distances. I do find shooting a handgun with a scope quite hard without some support - but you're covered there as there is a place to attach a bipod under the barrel.

BTW - if you find regular red dot sights hard to use take a look for an etched reticle sight with illumination. Something like the Vortex Spitfire AR - they work really well and you can shoot them with the illumination on or off as the reticle is etched into the glass in black.
 
Brian:

I just received my Weihrauch HW .177 pistol bought new from AOA and plan to shoot JSB 8.44s. I have yet to Chrony & zero. (I'm waiting on a scope level and cleaning rod.) I have an AIM Sports 2-7x 42 mil-dot pistol scope mounted.

I hope to be able to get decent groups out to 50 yds and still drop bunnies. I'll let you know how it goes; I've heard good things :).





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFZsOK5wYWk




 
As far as red dot go they are shapes like an ameba I can hit a target but it’s a moving red blob.



this video explains why a red dot won’t work for me





https://youtu.be/RipNFrIF2V4




"Shapes like an amoeba" - Hahaha Great description! 🤣 
That video was nice for explaining things to people that might not know about any of this..

Yeah, for me, I've always noticed what I call an aura-effect.. 
When friends / others doubled checked my red-dots in the past, they saw the dots just fine.
It makes perfect sense.

I also have issues just keeping the exact center of regular cross-hairs in focus..
Through my eye, I often see a bit of a 'wobble' - sort of like viewing through gas or heat fumes..

Anyways - You mentioned having a Leshiy?! Too cool! 
My PP700 W/ folding stock combo = my PML700. [PML model is the Poor Man's Leshiy] haha 

🙂👍 

Sam -
 
The .177 vs .22 question will always come down to weighing the compromises.
If it’s strictly for targets, .177 is the obvious choice for the shot count, and both the variety and economy of pellets.
If it’s strictly for hunting and pesting, shot count usually gives way to making a bigger hole and maximizing energy delivered to the target. 
When it comes to PCP pistols, both shot count and energy are pretty anemic compared to a rifle so the compromises seem to encroach pretty severely into the decision making.

Knowing that you will be spending far more time shooting targets, .177 is the baseline assumption, then see if you have a sufficiently convincing reason to “need” .22. I can relate to your goals. They align very well with my own. For a relaxing practice session in the back yard, I’m not going to pick up a .22 that gets 20 shots per fill nearly as often as a .177 that gets, say, 35 shots per fill. Refilling is an annoying interruption to an activity that should be enjoyable. Sure, I could tune the .22 to get that many shots but now I’m lobbing mortar shells at my 40 yard target. Or if I can tolerate the low velocity because I’m keeping my shots inside of 20 yards, I could instead downtune the .177 to get 55 shots.

But there are those times I want to grease a gray squirrel. In .177, I prefer to stick with brain shots. Above 10fpe, I have no reservations taking heart/lung shots but 99% of the time I will wait for a brain shot or just pass on the opportunity. In .22 cal, I’m perfectly happy with a vitals shot. Lungs do comparatively worse at extracting oxygen when they have 50% bigger holes.

Lastly, I have to be honest with myself about how well I can shoot a pistol. With an accurate PCP rifle, I know I can put 10 out of 10 pellets in a squirrel’s kill zone at 50 yards. With a pistol, I haven’t yet reached that level of confidence even at 25 yards. Again, 10 for 10...I get absolutely disgusted with myself if I injure an animal with a poorly placed shot. So if my range is limited too severely by my abilities, I’m going to want the .22 so shot placement isn’t as critical.

With all that said, my current go-to pistol for both practice and small game is a .177 tuned to a very modest 6fpe. Why so low? Well it was a bit by accident. I adjusted it to 13fpe straight away and picked it up from time to time to whack a chipmunk or squirrel. After a while I realized it just wasn’t getting used much. A misbehaving regulator made me tear into it. I reconfigured the Bellevilles for a lower setpoint and tinkered with a few tunes before ending up at one producing about 60 shots at 6fpe. That’s when I realized, wow, it doesn’t have to shoot 800fps to be fun. I started picking it up all the time.

Then I added the folding shoulder stock and changed from a 4x scope to a 9x with AO and saw my groups shrink from 1in at 25 yards down to 1/2”, and some as small as 1/4”. That’s good fun on a lazy Sunday afternoon. I can put in a couple of short sessions, 20 or 30 pellets, and not have to refill. Somewhere in there, smash a chipmunk off the stump near the bird feeder.

Maybe that will give some perspective :)
 
Another perspective is to use a pistol as designed-as a pistol. That is what OP inquired about. They are short range guns. The pp700 and HW44 provide plenty of energy in .177 for small game at pistol range. And acuracy with heavier .177 pellets might well improve while accuracy in lighter .22 pellets might go down. Personally I can't see any advantage in adding a stock to a pistol when even a compact rifle would seemingly be more accurate and provide more power (and shot count) in almost all cases. All JMO of course.