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Hey everyone. I apologize I apologize for the delays in my reply as I work nights and just got into work.

After some deliberation I think a pump up is actually gonna be better for me since I'm mainly going to be targeting squirrels and what not as I see them. Trying to pump up A PCP for just taking a 1 or 2 shots doesn't really seem viable and sustainable for long term enjoyment

I feel if I really get into the hobby side of this I could always upgrade.

Someone suggested the dragonfly mk2 which seems like it might fit my needs pretty well. It even has a magizine which I really like. The only issue I'm seeing is it having a wooden stock
 
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DavidDoberek1 said:
Hey everyone. I apologize I apologize for the delays in my reply as I work nights and just got into work.

After some deliberation I think a pump up is actually gonna be better for me since I'm mainly going to be targeting squirrels and what not as I see them. Trying to pump up A PCP for just taking a 1 or 2 shots doesn't really seem viable and sustainable for long term enjoyment

I feel if I really get into the hobby side of this I could always upgrade.

Someone suggested the dragonfly mk2 which seems like it might fit my needs pretty well. It even has a magizine which I really like. The only issue I'm seeing is it having a wooden stock
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Thats cool ... A squirrel. Clap , clap ,clap, clap ,clap.🤤 but the pump up you going to pump it up x amount of times . A good break barrel you cock it once .

Anyway you do what you feels best for you . Not me, him or that guy down the street.
 
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DavidDoberek1 said:
Hey everyone. I apologize I apologize for the delays in my reply as I work nights and just got into work.

After some deliberation I think a pump up is actually gonna be better for me since I'm mainly going to be targeting squirrels and what not as I see them. Trying to pump up A PCP for just taking a 1 or 2 shots doesn't really seem viable and sustainable for long term enjoyment

I feel if I really get into the hobby side of this I could always upgrade.

Someone suggested the dragonfly mk2 which seems like it might fit my needs pretty well. It even has a magizine which I really like. The only issue I'm seeing is it having a wooden stock
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Firstly, welcome, avoid the Rabbit Hole® of PCP's. BUT, PCP's you can leave pressurized with no issues. I'd go with one of the recommended pump ups, get the best you can afford. Stick with .22, it'll get the job done. Better ballistics too.
 
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Treefrog said:
^ That. Although I think one in .22 would have a greater impact on your targets.

The main reason is that you won't have to re-learn to shoot because a "springer" will need 'the artillery hold' to hit anything consistently. Why spend your time re-learning to shoot when the skillset necessary to operate a PCP will tranfer right over from that 700?

Luck,

J~
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Can you elaborate further on this please? What's am artillery hold?
HogKiller said:
Firstly, welcome, avoid the Rabbit Hole® of PCP's. BUT, PCP's you can leave pressurized with no issues. I'd go with one of the recommended pump ups, get the best you can afford. Stick with .22, it'll get the job done. Better ballistics too.
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Yea I was informed about that. Honestly since you can store air in the gun indefinitely I'm inclined to see if i can speak with this guy.

PCP Rifle - Benjamin Fortitude Gen 2 .177 cal with Scope and Pump $280

DROPPING $10 A WEEK UNTIL SOLD OR MAKE OFFER... hmm, well lets just restart this at $280... good grief. Benjamin Fortitude Gen 2 .177 cal with Scope and Pump (2019 vintage) $280 Shipped and PayPal fees accepted (2 boxes) all in Excellent + condition with original boxes and paperwork. Gun...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
 
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You can get a decent quality springer and some pellets for your budget.. Most folks that have a problem shooting springers are PCP shooters that are used to non recoiling rifles. If properly tuned and setup, springers are easy to shoot. One cock and shoot, simple, sweet and accurate. You dont need 20 plus ft lbs of energy to hunt, been hunting with airguns for over 35 years, rats, squirrels, chippers, crows etc all with springers under 20 ft lbs. Also a FT competitor for well over 25 years all spring guns. Find a nice HW or an older RWS or an older Beeman and you will be fine. Parts are availiable for these with searching foreign companies for scarce parts. Springs and seals are readily availiable to freshen up the firing power when needed. Most areveasy to service on your own without beung sent out. You mentioned simple and easy and cost effective, a springer fits all these requirements. Also easy to upgrade if you want and they hold their resale value !! Your money, your decision, but you will get tired of pumping quickly !!
 
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DavidDoberek1 said:
Hello everyone! My apologies if there was a specific area of the forums that I'm supposed to ask this question on. I took a look at the resources section and didn't see a particular post that said "help me pick one out" wasn't allowed

I just purchased my first home with my wife and I have a few pests I need to take care of. I've been using my .22lr but I think an airgun may be of better use. I'm sure my neighbors will also appreciate it.

In an attempt to be as specific as possible I have used airguns in the past. My brother and I were giving break barells as kids and we put several thousand rounds through them. These were whatever my dad got at Walmart and I haven't had any other experience with air guns.

To start off To start off with the budget I'd like to spend anywhere between $100 to $400, I'm willing to purchase a scope and rifle combo kit. I understand this is a wide margin and a low budget but I hope I can narrow this down

For caliber I think I was to stick with .177. Im more then open to listen to opinions on .22 but considering my targets are chipmunks, squirrel and small birds I feel. 22 is a bit overkill. I also assume the ammo is cheaper

For style of rifle I've been kind of going back-and-forth on a break barrel and A pcp. I'm still learning about this sport but I'd like to get as close to a bolt to action as I can. I dont want to use c02 because years of playing airsoft has taught me how awful maintaining seals are with c02. I want a rifle that will require minimal matinence.

That's for That's for rifle size the way I'd like to describe it is a "full size". I want something that's gonna be close and scale to say a Remington 700. I ran into this problem when purchasing my 22 caliber rifle because most of them were designed to be used by children I felt many of them were too small.

I'd like a synthetic stock but I'd be open to wood

Something else that I'd like is to purchase this rifle used unfortunately due to the regulations with Facebook marketplace and places like that I can't exactly buy local so I'd be more than happy to buy one on the forums through the marketplace.


I'm also not sure about the kind of maintenance these rifles use but I'd like to not have to worry a whole lot about it.

I appreciate your time and I look forward to learning more about this sport and possibly getting a rifle of my own in the near future
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Make sure you buy something strong enough to kill it and not just maime it. I just am assuming you mean rats. If looking for something the sting a pest and keep it away just get a $30 Red Ryder type Daisy.
 
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bfloyd1095 said:
This would be a Great option for you, Ready to go and should do what you want just fine.

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I just saw where you are new member, 1st off Welcome to the madness!
As a new member you will need to take a quick look at the Classified Rules, i know it may be frustrating, but trust me they are Way more beneficial than the alternative problem they are designed to prevent...

PCP Rifle - Benjamin Fortitude Gen 2 .177 cal with Scope and Pump $280

DROPPING $10 A WEEK UNTIL SOLD OR MAKE OFFER... hmm, well lets just restart this at $280... good grief. Benjamin Fortitude Gen 2 .177 cal with Scope and Pump (2019 vintage) $280 Shipped and PayPal fees accepted (2 boxes) all in Excellent + condition with original boxes and paperwork. Gun...
www.airgunnation.com www.airgunnation.com
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After further deliberation I think this rifle would be perfect for my needs. Ill get in contact with him in a week when I can lmao
 
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After further deliberation I think this rifle would be perfect for my needs. Ill get in contact with him in a week when I can lmao
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That's an excellent choice. You'll probably want to try different pellets to see what it shoots most accurately. Crosman Destroyers are effective on small game and won't destroy your budget at the same time.

Destroyer.jpeg


J~
 
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WorriedMan said:
David,
Welcome to the forum, glad you're here. Suggest a First Generation Umarex Gauntlet (.22 or .25) from Pyramyd Air for $229 and a $50 Chinese HPA hand pump (eBay) to fill it. Was my first PCP, two years ago, paid $310 for a .25. Found the 10-pound (scoped) and 47-inch length a bit much for all-day hunting but gun is accurate. Regulated, bolt-action and synthetic stock sounds right up your alley. Throw any scope on the dovetail rails, PCPs aren't hard on scopes like some break-barrels. No learning curve needed to shoot the PCP from powder burners, the accuracy will amaze. WM
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I respectfully disagree, my first PCP was also a G1 Gauntlet and it sits in the closet due to it's enormous weight, length and horrible cocking effort. Hard pass for this guy.
 
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Firewalker said:
I respectfully disagree, my first PCP was also a G1 Gauntlet and it sits in the closet due to it's enormous weight, length and horrible cocking effort. Hard pass for this guy.
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So your saying you had to throw down the gauntlet?😁.

Honestly i just don't see where a quality springer anit fitting any part of this bill..
 
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Just my opinions so take it with a grain of salt. Ditch the 177 caliber and go with at least 22. You are already going to be way way below 22 lr power and what you seek is a purposeful gun. That purpose being pest removal so the little extra umph the 22 will provide will be more suited to that purpose. Now there are better rifles in this price range with more features than the one I’m going to suggest but my suggestion is simple, reliable and fits the purpose. I would recommend getting a 300 dollar gamo urban and a 50 dollar China hand pump. The gun will have plenty of power for your purpose. It likes cheap crosman 14 gr variant pellets. It’s easy to hand pump. At 350 it fits right in the budget. It’s reliable and simple to work on if need be. Pump to 3k, shoot 20 times and refill.
 
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Firewalker said:
I respectfully disagree, my first PCP was also a G1 Gauntlet and it sits in the closet due to it's enormous weight, length and horrible cocking effort. Hard pass for this guy.
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Firewalker,
Agree, if $310, or higher, but $229, with a Pyramyd Air occasional discount thrown in, don't think your accurately stated concerns should rule it out as a starter PCP. With OP's budget, usage and desire for full-size, synthetic stock, bolt-action PCP, seemed worth suggesting. I mentioned weight and length concerns, so could be factored in decision. Will be interesting to see how low G1 prices go. WM
 
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Trucker3573 said:
Just my opinions so take it with a grain of salt. Ditch the 177 caliber and go with at least 22. You are already going to be way way below 22 lr power and what you seek is a purposeful gun. That purpose being pest removal so the little extra umph the 22 will provide will be more suited to that purpose. Now there are better rifles in this price range with more features than the one I’m going to suggest but my suggestion is simple, reliable and fits the purpose. I would recommend getting a 300 dollar gamo urban and a 50 dollar China hand pump. The gun will have plenty of power for your purpose. It likes cheap crosman 14 gr variant pellets. It’s easy to hand pump. At 350 it fits right in the budget. It’s reliable and simple to work on if need be. Pump to 3k, shoot 20 times and refill.
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20 times on 2k seems quite low. Does it really take that much more air to move a .22?
 
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