Beeman First ever .20 cal springer: "among some the most desirable collectors’ items of adult airguns" (Dr. R. Beeman)

I bought a Beeman 250 in .20 caliber in 1982 at the Beeman San Rafael, CA location for $162.42. It had been discontinued and sitting for sale in their showroom/office. I had recently bought a FWB 124D, loved it, and was trying to follow the hype that Beeman was making over new guns in .20 caliber. So I bought it.

Now , after 41 years, I've learned that this .20 cal rifle was from the first and only lot of Beeman 250 .20 cal ever produced--and the first production .20 rifles ever made. Apparently, this .20 caliber Beeman 250 even predated Beeman's foray into the experimental Beeman R5 (.20 cal). From what I can read, this .20 caliber was in a lot of only 40 (some confusing references say 60) ever produced!

When Dr. Beeman wrote his artical on "For the Record: Rare Beeman Guns" he called this rilfe "extremely rare"; and in another article, "The Most Collectible Airguns of the Twentieth Century, he listed it as "highly desirable". And finally, in his article about the Beeman R5, he says “They are now among some the most desirable collectors’ items of adult airguns.”

I was blown away by all this hype. But was it only hype? When I looked it up in the 2020 Blue Book of Airguns 13th Ed., it was valued, at most, at $440.

I am now very confused about this rifle: do I have a very valuable vintage airgun? Are there actually any collectors interested in the very first .20 production air rifle? Or, do I have a 40 year-old nice, nostalgic, historic rifle...worth maybe $400.

I think all of us have guns that we love to think are "really worth something", but are actually just a treasure for our own enjoyment and imagination. And its external value is only what some other person, if any, is willing to pay....as always.
 
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Honestly...I had to look the model up and view pics.

That is a RWS 45.
Here's what I got from an article, this gun is before the RWS 45:

The straight story on the Beeman R5 (by Robert Beeman, Ph.D.)

(excerpt) "The R5 and R1/5mm were not Beeman’s

first excursions into the world of precision

5mm. Beeman had been production the fine 5mm

pellets, most notably the Beeman Silver Jets,

for many years; and we had brought in an

experimental batch of Beeman Model 250 air

rifles made for us by Mayer and Grammel-

spacer (Diana) in 5mm caliber. Less than 60

of the Beeman Model 250 rifles, which were

introduced in 5mm in edition nine, winter

1981, of our catalog, were ever produced.

They are now among some the most desirable

collectors’ items of adult airguns. This is be-

cause we dropped the models 250, 400, 700

and 900 at the end of 1981. (To clear the

record completely: We dropped the model 200

in 1979, the model 100 in 1980, and the

models 800 and 850 in 1982.) When the gun

reappeared as the RWS model 45 in 5mm, it

was one of the most unsuccessful guns ever sold

by Dynamit Nobel. Diana/Dynamit Nobel

dropped that caliber from their line, while it

gradually became the biggest seller among our

sporting air rifles."
 
$400-$500 sounds about right depending on the condition but what something is truly worth always depends on how badly someone would want one and how willing the seller is to let it go. I've seen guns I thought were worth $1000 go for $500 and I've paid $1000 for guns that were probably only worth $500 but I REALLY wanted them and they were rare enough to justify spending more on one.

Your gun I personally wouldn't spend more than $500 on but thats just me. If I'm spending a ton of money on a springer it needs to have a big wow factor to it which the 250 doesn't really have for me. It definitely is a cool gun you have there though and .20 cal is a big plus in my opinion.

Do you have some pictures?
 
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$400-$500 sounds about right depending on the condition but what something is truly worth always depends on how badly someone would want one and how willing the seller is to let it go. I've seen guns I thought were worth $1000 go for $500 and I've paid $1000 for guns that were probably only worth $500 but I REALLY wanted them and they were rare enough to justify spending more on one.

You're gun I personally wouldn't spend more than $500 on but thats just me. If I'm spending a ton of money on a springer it needs to have a big wow factor to it which the 250 doesn't really have for me. It definitely is a cool gun you have there though and .20 cal is a big plus in my opinion.

Do you have some pictures?
Thanks Sqwirl57, yours is just the very down-to-earth take on this gun I was looking for.
 
Keep it and love it.
The memories of those Beeman show rooms are glowing embers for those of us fortunate enough to have seen them in person.
The monetary value will never exceed that fond memory. That said, an early Beeman .20 cal may just surprise you on the open market. I have seen some crazy things recently! Many of these guns like Theoben, Genesis, Venom, and Whiscombe have turned the corner from niche collectibles to honest investments.

We would all love to see pictures of your gun.
 
$400-$500 sounds about right depending on the condition but what something is truly worth always depends on how badly someone would want one and how willing the seller is to let it go. I've seen guns I thought were worth $1000 go for $500 and I've paid $1000 for guns that were probably only worth $500 but I REALLY wanted them and they were rare enough to justify spending more on one.

Your gun I personally wouldn't spend more than $500 on but thats just me. If I'm spending a ton of money on a springer it needs to have a big wow factor to it which the 250 doesn't really have for me. It definitely is a cool gun you have there though and .20 cal is a big plus in my opinion.

Do you have some pictures?
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$400-$500 sounds about right depending on the condition but what something is truly worth always depends on how badly someone would want one and how willing the seller is to let it go. I've seen guns I thought were worth $1000 go for $500 and I've paid $1000 for guns that were probably only worth $500 but I REALLY wanted them and they were rare enough to justify spending more on one.

Your gun I personally wouldn't spend more than $500 on but thats just me. If I'm spending a ton of money on a springer it needs to have a big wow factor to it which the 250 doesn't really have for me. It definitely is a cool gun you have there though and .20 cal is a big plus in my opinion.

Do you have some pictures?
I just posted some photos below
 
so, is the rare, sure
will it be something that is looked for, maybe not, because no one know it was even made
does the .20 caliber make it something you need to have, well no because your choice of pellets is like what 4
were there rare versions of this model yes there were
get two people fighting over it who knows what it worth
Blue Book
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so, is the rare, sure
will it be something that is looked for, maybe not, because no one know it was even made
does the .20 caliber make it something you need to have, well no because your choice of pellets is like what 4
were there rare versions of this model yes there were
get two people fighting over it who knows what it worth
Blue Book
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I love .20 cal (just ordered an HW97K in .20); so to me it's not that it is rare due to low production numbers... I love that it was the first production lot of .20 cal springers ever made ;-) Kind of like a pioneer, or pathfinder.

BTW--I bought my older brother's Sheridan pump rifle from him in 1962 when he graduated from high school (for $20, with a can of .20 cal pellets thrown in).
 
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I bought a Beeman 250 in .20 caliber in 1982 at the Beeman San Rafael, CA location for $162.42. It had been discontinued and sitting for sale in their showroom/office. I had recently bought a FWB 124D, loved it, and was trying to follow the hype that Beeman was making over new guns in .20 caliber. So I bought it.

Now , after 41 years, I've learned that this .20 cal rifle was from the first and only lot of Beeman 250 .20 cal ever produced--and the first production .20 rifles ever made. Apparently, this .20 caliber Beeman 250 even predated Beeman's foray into the experimental Beeman R5 (.20 cal). From what I can read, this .20 caliber was in a lot of only 40 (some confusing references say 60) ever produced!

When Dr. Beeman wrote his artical on "For the Record: Rare Beeman Guns" he called this rilfe "extremely rare"; and in another article, "The Most Collectible Airguns of the Twentieth Century, he listed it as "highly desirable". And finally, in his article about the Beeman R5, he says “They are now among some the most desirable collectors’ items of adult airguns.”

I was blown away by all this hype. But was it only hype? When I looked it up in the 2020 Blue Book of Airguns 13th Ed., it was valued, at most, at $440.

I am now very confused about this rifle: do I have a very valuable vintage airgun? Are there actually any collectors interested in the very first .20 production air rifle? Or, do I have a 40 year-old nice, nostalgic, historic rifle...worth maybe $400.

I think all of us have guns that we love to think are "really worth something", but are actually just a treasure for our own enjoyment and imagination. And its external value is only what some other person, if any, is willing to pay....as always.
Well - I’ll buy it
 
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IMO

The fact that it is not a Weihrauch affects the value. At the end of the day, ignoring all of the good Dr's. hype, it is a Diana 45.

With that said, I do not recall seeing a .20 Diana 45 before, and it does have the Beeman Mystique attached.
I would think that the 4 to 500 USD valuation given previously is pretty much spot on. The rifle appears to be better than 90% in the pictures, it is a .20 springer and the Beeman legend still stimulates interest.

Assuming that some one needed a very nice example to complete a collection, then I would expect that you could exceed that valuation easily.
Since you seem to be set on keeping and enjoying it, I would set the value for your records at 500 USD and continue to enjoy owning it.

It is a very nice example in an uncommon caliber, and Thank You for sharing it!
 
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