I thought I could do that too, instead I have everything you can change on an impact and a trash aea hpss along with my original marauder plus some pcp converted crosmans I have on loan.
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N/A First PCP - FX Impact M4 or Skout EVO?
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Just be sure you can find parts in stock. Nothing worse than a minor failure of a less accessible part.
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No access to aea valves. And then aea not understanding their design flaw is why I say this. That and old delrin fx regulator pistons that were temporarily more difficult to find right before utah airguns took over parts support. It's my expensive toy and I'd like it running at all times.
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I dont know enough about the skout yet. But if it's solenoid controlled like the old autococker paintball guns, this is a magnificent leap forward in how and what we can do with pcp rifles. I don't know that I'm qualified to speak on anything but the impact for your scenario. You're probably going to love either one honestly. At 2k you are in a different realm of airgun that is always good.
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I had an Autococker back in the day! Awesome gun! Before electronics were introduced.... 
I do appreciate your input though. Impact plus the cost of accessories = Skout, basically....
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I paid 2200 for my700mm m3 when it came out and I hate to think of this but Im probably 4k deep total chasing the rimfire power thing and a zulus optic. It was fine out of the box and I have rimfires. I just can't help myself.I had an Autococker back in the day! Awesome gun! Before electronics were introduced....
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Down the rabbit hole we go... I have a spreadsheet with costs for the various items.... I don't like to look at it Makes my head spin, hahahaha
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I think going to a higher tier for your first is a good idea.
I went with an Air Arms for my first, specifically because there is nothing to tinker with.
Then I bought less expensive guns for tinkering.
Too many get wound up in which is “Better” when the focus should be on what is best for you.
I went with an Air Arms for my first, specifically because there is nothing to tinker with.
Then I bought less expensive guns for tinkering.
Too many get wound up in which is “Better” when the focus should be on what is best for you.
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Thanks @Struckat. I appreciate it! I probably should have worded my original post better. I was mainly curious to hear what others thought of these two specifically. I am glad that I worded it the way I did though. There have been a lot of good comments and things to think about as a result.
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Something I never asked, how comfortable mechanically would you consider yourself? I think I'm farther up there on the scale, and seeing an complete impact oring kit the first time was bewildering
Struckat gives good advice. There is no better other than accuracy really. What is accurate and repeatable in your hands is the key to a good experience I think.
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I was watching the FX Panthera disassembly guide the other day, and thought... THAT MANY o-Rings! Hahahahaa
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I can't help but chime in on this one, as I just went through this. I won't repost it all here again, but here are a couple links to my very recent posts on this very subject.
https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...pany-and-support-like-ive-never-seen.1321267/
and some EVO test targets after barrel polishing and accuracy coming back in after polished barrel lead-in:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/for-those-wanting-to-see-some-skout-evo-stuff.1321897/
Clearly, for reasons stated, I am in the "buy the best you can the first time" camp. I do believe when it comes to PCPs, you generally get what you pay for. However, like most things in life, there are always situation-based exceptions. I also believe the person has to have some basic aptitude for what they are getting into, or maybe they do indeed need a "learner rifle".
You won't go wrong or be disappointed with either an Impact or a Skout (Epoch or EVO). However, after years of high-end FX Impact air guns with liners (in all fairness, FX has good liners, but they're still liners), what I felt was a falsely claimed "match-grade" trigger (Impact M4 finally has what I might consider a competition trigger), and the logistics of a foreign manufacturer, I finally jumped ship for solid bull barrels, an electronic trigger, and an American Manufacturer in the USA. Along with supporting an American company, parts are as available as is possible. For FX, if Utah Airguns, or one of the smaller mom-and-pop shops has the parts, you'll probably have them fairly quickly. If not, think "weapons parts coming into the country through US Customs". Might be a couple weeks from Sweeden, might be a few months. I personally experienced the few months for an Impact receiver once.
Working on the Skout is simply put... simple. FX Impact... organize your work space, and set some time aside if you're going into it.
I will close with my opinion on tuning these two rifles. I can't believe how much easier it seems to be to tune the Skout EVO. I don't recall even seeing a shot string yet whose extreme spread was in double digits. I'm sure it happens, but I would say it is much simpler to tune the Skouts than an FX Impact. Aside from the differences in the valves themselves, I believe this is largely because a solenoid whose dwell is controlled to the ms and very repeatable is more consistent than a mechanically tensioned hammer opening a valve. Just my opinion.
https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...pany-and-support-like-ive-never-seen.1321267/
and some EVO test targets after barrel polishing and accuracy coming back in after polished barrel lead-in:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/for-those-wanting-to-see-some-skout-evo-stuff.1321897/
Clearly, for reasons stated, I am in the "buy the best you can the first time" camp. I do believe when it comes to PCPs, you generally get what you pay for. However, like most things in life, there are always situation-based exceptions. I also believe the person has to have some basic aptitude for what they are getting into, or maybe they do indeed need a "learner rifle".
You won't go wrong or be disappointed with either an Impact or a Skout (Epoch or EVO). However, after years of high-end FX Impact air guns with liners (in all fairness, FX has good liners, but they're still liners), what I felt was a falsely claimed "match-grade" trigger (Impact M4 finally has what I might consider a competition trigger), and the logistics of a foreign manufacturer, I finally jumped ship for solid bull barrels, an electronic trigger, and an American Manufacturer in the USA. Along with supporting an American company, parts are as available as is possible. For FX, if Utah Airguns, or one of the smaller mom-and-pop shops has the parts, you'll probably have them fairly quickly. If not, think "weapons parts coming into the country through US Customs". Might be a couple weeks from Sweeden, might be a few months. I personally experienced the few months for an Impact receiver once.
Working on the Skout is simply put... simple. FX Impact... organize your work space, and set some time aside if you're going into it.
I will close with my opinion on tuning these two rifles. I can't believe how much easier it seems to be to tune the Skout EVO. I don't recall even seeing a shot string yet whose extreme spread was in double digits. I'm sure it happens, but I would say it is much simpler to tune the Skouts than an FX Impact. Aside from the differences in the valves themselves, I believe this is largely because a solenoid whose dwell is controlled to the ms and very repeatable is more consistent than a mechanically tensioned hammer opening a valve. Just my opinion.
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This pic shows where Skout is leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. EVERY gun over the price of $1000 SHOULD come with some type of Oring/parts kit. Sending a new gun back (for a 1or2 month turnaround time) for a bad Oring is completely unacceptable and really just shows a lack of courtesy for the person that just bought a product.
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@Chuck26287 thank you for all of that great information. I actually read through your posts before you posted on this thread when looking for info on Skout. Very informative.
Up until your post I was really leaning towards Skout, and now my mind is made up. Skout it is. I do wish they kept the adjustable buttpad stock on the Evo though.
Is getting the Evo over the Epoch worth it?
Up until your post I was really leaning towards Skout, and now my mind is made up. Skout it is. I do wish they kept the adjustable buttpad stock on the Evo though.
Is getting the Evo over the Epoch worth it?
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