Yeah, I really want the adjustable benchrest butt pad as well.@Chuck26287 thank you for all of that great information. I actually read through your posts before you posted on this thread when looking for info on Skout. Very informative.
Up until your post I was really leaning towards Skout, and now my mind is made up. Skout it is. I do wish they kept the adjustable buttpad stock on the Evo though.
Is getting the Evo over the Epoch worth it?
Well said. Such a basic concept missed by so many.This pic shows where Skout is leaps and bounds ahead of the competition. EVERY gun over the price of $1000 SHOULD come with some type of Oring/parts kit. Sending a new gun back (for a 1or2 month turnaround time) for a bad Oring is completely unacceptable and really just shows a lack of courtesy for the person that just bought a product.
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Thanks Chuck. I asked because I found a decent deal on an .25 cal Epoch with the 34" barrel. As for a solid barrel with me, that would need to come much later as I need to still get the support equipment. I'm glad to hear that the new solid barrels are backwards compatible with the Epoch line.Yeah, I really want the adjustable benchrest butt pad as well.
"Is getting the Evo over the Epoch worth it?"
For me, when getting my FIRST Skout I definitely think so, but that's because of one of my priorities... solid barrels. The electronics upgrade features (larger OLED screen, more accessible charging port, etc) are also worth having. I've said this before, but I think it's worth repeating. If I already had an Epoch, I don't think I would sell the Epoch to upgrade, but I would consider getting the EVO in ADDITION to the Epoch to have the redundancy, if it was financially possible. Skout had enough respect for the Epoch platform to make the new solid bull barrels backward compatible. So, you don't have to buy an EVO to be able to use the new barrels. However, my logic is if you buy a new Epoch at a slightly lower cost, then add a solid barrel, you're at or higher than the buying the EVO new and getting the other newer features, in addition to a solid barrel.
Hope this helps.
Chuck
Cleaver idea!View attachment 510387These homemade spinners are 4" steel electrical box covers, you can see the dents at 100yds out from my ghost plus 22 cal.
solid build, great accuracy, and you can change the cals. Who doesn't love a happy ghost.
Wrong, Skout has the best support in the Industry. Go EVO!I would choose neither for my first pcp. If those are your only choices, then go FX. More support and parts.
I can't say that I disagree with you on any of it. A solenoid fired impact would pretty much own the market if they pulled that off. Instead the impact is more like a carburetor than fuel injection.I can't help but chime in on this one, as I just went through this. I won't repost it all here again, but here are a couple links to my very recent posts on this very subject.
https://www.airgunnation.com/thread...pany-and-support-like-ive-never-seen.1321267/
and some EVO test targets after barrel polishing and accuracy coming back in after polished barrel lead-in:
https://www.airgunnation.com/threads/for-those-wanting-to-see-some-skout-evo-stuff.1321897/
Clearly, for reasons stated, I am in the "buy the best you can the first time" camp. I do believe when it comes to PCPs, you generally get what you pay for. However, like most things in life, there are always situation-based exceptions. I also believe the person has to have some basic aptitude for what they are getting into, or maybe they do indeed need a "learner rifle".
You won't go wrong or be disappointed with either an Impact or a Skout (Epoch or EVO). However, after years of high-end FX Impact air guns with liners (in all fairness, FX has good liners, but they're still liners), what I felt was a falsely claimed "match-grade" trigger (Impact M4 finally has what I might consider a competition trigger), and the logistics of a foreign manufacturer, I finally jumped ship for solid bull barrels, an electronic trigger, and an American Manufacturer in the USA. Along with supporting an American company, parts are as available as is possible. For FX, if Utah Airguns, or one of the smaller mom-and-pop shops has the parts, you'll probably have them fairly quickly. If not, think "weapons parts coming into the country through US Customs". Might be a couple weeks from Sweeden, might be a few months. I personally experienced the few months for an Impact receiver once.
Working on the Skout is simply put... simple. FX Impact... organize your work space, and set some time aside if you're going into it.
I will close with my opinion on tuning these two rifles. I can't believe how much easier it seems to be to tune the Skout EVO. I don't recall even seeing a shot string yet whose extreme spread was in double digits. I'm sure it happens, but I would say it is much simpler to tune the Skouts than an FX Impact. Aside from the differences in the valves themselves, I believe this is largely because a solenoid whose dwell is controlled to the ms and very repeatable is more consistent than a mechanically tensioned hammer opening a valve. Just my opinion.
Thats where a credit card comes in ... OR, commit to one and see if a partial deposit locks in the discount price ?Too bad I don't get paid until tomorrow. Pyramid is having an 11% sitewide sale today for election day. Yes, the Skout's are included I looked.
That really bright round circle you see when looking up above you is not the sun shining through a thick and dark overcast, it's the opening to the rabbit hole my friend and you have fallen down it! Don't worry, though, there's a ton of us down here, and we all know how to get back out... we just like it here.Thanks Chuck! Much appreciated. I will look into those digital gauges you provided. I was actually thinking of going digital anyway (eventually). The idea of having better resolution is a clear winner with me, be it in BAR or PSI. I do plan on getting the ARCA mount from Skout to mount a bipod. Oh how the dollar signs add up..... hahahaha. <---Not a complaint!
Thank you everyone for your input. Got an Epoch in .25 cal. Fam was able to pitch in.