Brocock/BRK For those of you trying to decide between a Brocock Atomic/Ranger and a Pathfinder.

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When I was trying to decide if a small Brocock was worth purchasing because I already had a FX Dreamline Tactical and was not sure how they would stack up in size as a backpack gun. I could find dimensions but not a photo comparison of the three guns.
So I am posting these photos to possibly help another prospective buyer decide what size would be right for them. There are plenty of posts on the performance stats of these guns but a visual of their comparative size would have helped me out making my decision.

DIMENSIONS ARE OPEN WITH STOCK NOT EXTENDED AND FOLDED. As you can see not a huge difference from the Dreamline.

Atomic. - 24 1/2“. And 16”

Pathfinder - 26 1/2”. And 18”

FX. - 29 1/2”. And 21 1/2”

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When I was trying to decide if a small Brocock was worth purchasing because I already had a FX Dreamline Tactical and was not sure how they would stack up in size as a backpack gun. I could find dimensions but not a photo comparison of the three guns.
So I am posting these photos to possibly help another prospective buyer decide what size would be right for them. There are plenty of posts on the performance stats of these guns but a visual of their comparative size would have helped me out making my decision.
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Big Mike,

When someone says backpack gun, I imagine they are packing it in the woods to forage, pest or plink. But I see you and Solo have bipods on them. Is this just a discreet way to get out of the house/apartment and head to the range without the neighbors noticing or panicking (due to the semi-similar AR look). Or possibly walking out beyond the city limits to pest or whatever? Just curious?

Since you have The Atomic, the Pathfinder and the FX Dreamline Tactical... What is your favorite of the three for a backpack gun? And what is it based on; size, weight, power, accuracy, or ?

Thanks,

Jerry
 
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Jerry,
So this is my opinion on the guns. But you know what they say about opinions.
The atomic is a very nice gun and built like a tank. It is definitely something you would want to use for small pests or game ( squirrel or rabbit size) because when it is adjusted at or near 20fpe the shot count it rather low.
The Pathfinder is a different story. I can get 30 FPE out of the gun with 28gr pellets and 25 FPE with all the common .22 caliber pellets ( 15, 16, 18 ) and the shot count is triple the Atomic.
Now here is the deal with the Dreamline. I really like these guns ( I have three ) two Tactical and a Power Pup. Dreamlines are like the AR of airguns. Very easy to work on and change to different configurations. You can make the gun a 15fpe .177 or a 80 FPE .30 cal in the right configuration.

If I were picking strictly for a backpack gun it would be the Pathfinder. It has enough power and size to shoot well and is small enough and light enough to carry in a backpack. To answer your question about the backpack it is strictly due to the fact that it is easier to carry than a gun case to transport or walk to a hunting spot. Makes it easy to carry ammo and additional air for the gun.

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The Atomic is loud without a moderator where the Pathfinder and Dreamline with the shrouded barrel are quite a bit quieter. If the Dreamline had one of my unshrouded pencil barrels on it it would be just as loud or louder than the Atomic. So if you cannot use a moderator I would get the Pathfinder. The Dreamline dose not come with a shrouded barrel any more like mine is set up so you would have to hunt one down.
 
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bigmike said:
When I was trying to decide if a small Brocock was worth purchasing because I already had a FX Dreamline Tactical and was not sure how they would stack up in size as a backpack gun. I could find dimensions but not a photo comparison of the three guns.
So I am posting these photos to possibly help another prospective buyer decide what size would be right for them. There are plenty of posts on the performance stats of these guns but a visual of their comparative size would have helped me out making my decision.

DIMENSIONS ARE OPEN WITH STOCK NOT EXTENDED AND FOLDED. As you can see not a huge difference from the Dreamline.

Atomic. - 24 1/2“. And 16”

Pathfinder - 26 1/2”. And 18”

FX. - 29 1/2”. And 21 1/2”

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I have Brocock/Brk Commander XR, Commander XR Magnum and Atomic XR but I also have FX Panthera Hunter Compact (all are .22). IMHO Brocock/Brk is way over-lauded and IMHP is not in the same league as FX Panthera (I also have Panthera 600mm dual bottle) as far as power and tunability. In the USA, far fewer dealer that are able to supply fixes and service. Most Brocock/Brk (in my experience) don't have any technical ability or knowledge about Brocock/Brk. The Brocock/Brks are well made and mine have been as accurate as my Pantheras, but if considering a purchase, I'd suggest a FX Panthera Hunter Compact with folding stock option and 480cc front bottle. The Panthera platform is IMHO, "State of the Smart" with lots of component interchangability and AR milspec, including but not limited to barrel length and easy caliber change. It does irk me that the Brocock/Brk magazines are WAAYYYY overpriced although CARM makes good 3D magazines for Brocock/Brk at less than 1/2 the Brocock/Brk price. I think that the Brocock/Brks are also overpriced. They seem to be a "fashion accessory" rather than for a serious power shooter. I have no experience with the Ghost and I hear lots of good thinks about it but the Brocock/Brks that I already have and my 2 Pantheras have solved all of my needs and then some. I prefer Panthera over Deamline.
 
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I have six FX airguns. FX in just about any form will generate more power and have more accessories than a Brocock. My M3 and Maverick satisfy my power needs. The nice thing about a Brocock is how easy they are to work on if you need to which is rare. The best thing about them is they are what I call a set it and forget it Airgun. They have enough power and accuracy for most air gunners. As for cost I would agree some of the Brococks are over priced especially the Magnums. I have purchased all of mine on the used market ( I have six Brococks also at the moment) and have not paid over $1000.00 for any of them except my Pathfinder. I do not see many used FX guns in that price range.

I really like the Panthera hunter but I am not sold on the design yet. It seems that a lot of them show up on the used market but I am considering one along with the new RAW hunter. So many choices and to each his own.
 
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I have six FX airguns. FX in just about any form will generate more power and have more accessories than a Brocock. My M3 and Maverick satisfy my power needs. The nice thing about a Brocock is how easy they are to work on if you need to which is rare. The best thing about them is they are what I call a set it and forget it Airgun. They have enough power and accuracy for most air gunners. As for cost I would agree some of the Brococks are over priced especially the Magnums. I have purchased all of mine on the used market ( I have six Brococks also at the moment) and have not paid over $1000.00 for any of them except my Pathfinder. I do not see many used FX guns in that price range.

I really like the Panthera hunter but I am not sold on the design yet. It seems that a lot of them show up on the used market but I am considering one along with the new RAW hunter. So many choices and to each his own.
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I think you have the same problem as I do, but you have it worse! I have seen any Brocock/Brk (used) in that price range. My Atomic is my favorite PCP followed closely by my FX Hunter Compact. I am very disappointed in the power of my Commander XR Magnum (max 46 fpe) but all of my Brocock/Brk are, as you say, "accurate". I appreciate the photo size comparison. I really don't understand by anyone would want a Pathfinder when there is an Atomic. Except maybe more air. And I don't like the "frame" of the Pathfinder, would have preferred a "frame" on it like the Atomic. Maybe there are "frames" or "Chassis" available on the after market. What is the shot count on your Pathfinder (per filll)?

Oh yeah...The Pathfinder has an adjustable regulator....Hmmm.... I think I'll get one. I doubt I'll find a used one.
 
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